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25 Nov 2023 21:36:59
Hi Eds, been following U17 World cup. This no. 10 from Argentina CLAUDIO ECHEVERRI just scored a hat trick vs Brazil. Do you know if Liverpool or any clubs tracking him?

{Ed002's Note - Huge interest from Europe but not Liverpool.}

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26 Nov 2023 07:55:54
Thank you eds for insight. Such a shame we are not tracking these talents.

26 Nov 2023 09:26:59
What do you mean by “these talents”? How many and which talents aren’t the club tracking? Can you name them please?

26 Nov 2023 13:36:16
@WDW3 a very simple example just look at Brighton, how is it they are able to purchase young players with such high ceiling at fraction of price? You want example of "these talents"? Ok Jude Bellingham, Mitoma, Calceido, Khvicha Kvaratskhelia, Rafael Leao .

Why are we not able be first club to scout and pick these players but rather have to buy them over at exorbitant price. Eds have already confirmed Brighton has a better recruitment team, i bet they are watching closely this U17 tournament, and probably our scouts are somewhere in pubs.

There you have it. I rest my case.

{Ed001's Note - utter nonsense, you clearly do not understand scouting or recruitment. We can't buy them because they are not ready for our team, but Brighton can because they are not as good so the youngsters have a chance of playing.}

26 Nov 2023 15:25:22
If that's your case Lee I won't be employing your services if you're a lawyer lad.

26 Nov 2023 18:28:15
You’re making it sound like we haven’t got any talented youngsters in our team .

27 Nov 2023 05:56:27
You so realise that with szobo and macca being here there won't be a spot for him to play in the next 7-8 years right.

27 Nov 2023 13:34:33
Lee, your brilliant insight and "case" is everflowing (and continuing from the live chat, I must add) . Your view of football recruitment is as simplistic and lop-sided as can be, when it is actually a complex issue with loads of risk. Why not mention the young talents who did not make it into the world class talent pool you've mentioned? What are the numbers? The successes versus the young kids who didn't make it into "Bellingham territory"? Is it 1 for 1 (one success for one failing to live up to expectations or is it 1 to 10 or 15 or 20?) . If you did that then you'd realize that your case is actually no case at all.

26 Nov 2023 22:59:53
I love it when know it all’s get put in their place. ?.

26 Nov 2023 23:55:39
If I’m being honest @Lee, your opinion seems to show a fair bot of disrespect to the club, the coaching staff and in particular to the club scouts and the youngsters the club have brought in and who are coming through out Academy system.

It’s easy to pluck names out of the air and adopt an attitude that the ‘grass is always greener’ but as Ed01 says circumstances are different for other clubs and our policy is to target younger players with the potential to become first team (at least squad) members, before they make it into the public eye. As an example, and to Ed01’s point, we were tracking Bellingham when he was a kid at Birmingham but he wanted to go to Germany where he was offered first team opportunities that he wouldn’t have got at Liverpool. We were interested when he wanted to step up from Dortmund but his preference was to go to Real Madrid. I’m fairly sure that the names you mention have been of interest to Liverpool but sometimes players also just want to go somewhere else.

27 Nov 2023 21:21:58
Lee, this topic is clearly not your strong point cos it seems you are giving simplistic answers that anyone can give, to severely complex topics.

Hence, you should propbably do a lot more research on it rather than mentioning Brighton as some kind of role model whereas, they have nowhere near the type of ambition LFC have. Just a thought.

28 Nov 2023 07:19:01
@ed001, i challenge your hypothesis, yes, its just your hypothesis that Brighton is a club not good enough so they play or gamble with youngsters. I quote you a counter example- Napoli. They scout and recruited Khvicha Kvaratskhelia, Victor Osimhen, Kim Min Jae. 3 world class players at fraction of value they will cost now. Please refute me. My assertion: Liverpool scouting and recruitment is in sleep mode regarding potential, raw talents.

{Ed001's Note - what are you talking about? What the hell is Napoli to do with anything? For starters Kvaradona was wanted by half of Europe but Napoli could offer him first team football, unlike most. Osimhen is in no way world class anyway. Good player but has a lot of work to do to become world class. Napoli again offered him first team football, so he chose them over other offers. How do you know Liverpool were sleeping when they joined Napoli. I can answer that for you - you have no idea.}

28 Nov 2023 08:41:00
Hi ed0001, i quote Napoli as example because you said "Brighton can because they are not as good so the youngsters have a chance of playing"

Brighton not so good. ok marginally agreed. Napoli? They wacked us 4-1.

{Ed001's Note - still not relevant and shows how little you understand as you forget where they were when they bought those players.}

28 Nov 2023 10:25:01
Lee are you AI? I'm getting AI vibes.

28 Nov 2023 12:57:22
Didnt Napoli pay like 75 mil for osimhen? In what world is that something to bring up in a conversation about Young and raw talents for peanuts.

28 Nov 2023 17:45:56
Don’t think we in any position to criticise the club scouting since klopp came. Couple of players it hasn’t worked out for couple others blighted by injuries. Every other seems to have been a success.

28 Nov 2023 22:35:11
Napoli must have been sleeping when we signed mo salah from their neighbours.

29 Nov 2023 05:02:15
Ed1 - this convo with Leek is hurting my brain haha. I think some people don’t quite see the nuance. They just see this happening over there and assume it can happen here. Meanwhile totally disregarding that we have turned plenty of bargain transfers into superstars. So even the premise to suggest that we don’t or can’t do what the likes of Brighton / Napoli do in principle is purely not true.

The other thing about it is that we make an assumption that the players Napoli signed would have either been straight into the starting line-up or prepared to bide their time on the bench. Marginal either way for all of those guy.

{Ed001's Note - exactly. It just shows a lack of understanding of reality.}

29 Nov 2023 07:27:31
There’s data, which has the potential to be turned into information, which has the potential, in its turn, to be turned into knowledge, which has the potential to turn into wisdom. This thread is definitely paddling in the shallow end.

29 Nov 2023 18:01:57
Ed01, I think you should abort mission on this one cos the longer you keep going, the less intelligent you're going to look.



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