09 May 2024 03:12:34
Expect Fulhams Robinson to be a major target. Tosin isn't going to happen. And Carvalho will have a fresh start which we all hope he will take.
09 May 2024 07:27:49
I like Robinson I’d be very happy with that.
09 May 2024 09:10:59
I've read he grew up in Liverpool as well and is a big fan of the club. Just about to enter his prime years and already a very solid left back defensively. He's not quite as effective as Robbo in the final 3rd, but I think our priority needs to be to stop leaking goals for fun next year and Robbo looks like he's slowed down a bit, despite being superb vs Spurs. We need our defence to give the front 5 or 6 a platform to go and express themselves, instead of feeling the pressure to score 3+ goals every game in case we wobble at the back.
09 May 2024 10:00:06
An upgrade on tsimikas so I’m happy with that .
{Ed025's Note - Mr Bean would be an upgrade on Tsimikas Dhfc.. :)
09 May 2024 10:28:47
Robinson is a good player but we can do much better. Robertson is better than him. If we’re signing a left back it should be someone better than Robertson and make Robertson the understudy rather than signing an understudy.
09 May 2024 11:17:39
Great athlete, good numbers. Could do what Robbo has done for us over the years.
However, not sure he is technical enough to play the way that the fullback role is evolving now.
So much will depend on what the new coach wants to do with his fullbacks. Getting another Robbo is pointless if we want them to use the right foot or invert into LCB or even midfield.
09 May 2024 11:47:04
Oh no, Robinson, Robertson - going to cause problems for people of my age ?.
09 May 2024 11:56:09
OneKiss, I think he's better defensively than Robertson already and possibly then any left back in the league. Had this conversation one some mates back in January, and I couldn't come up with one who is more defensively sound. He reminds me a bit of Kyle Walker in his ability to stand a winger up 1v1 and track runners.
I think you may have a point though regarding his ability going forward. He isn't as good as Robertson offensively and In my opinion he never will be because he lacks the technique on his crosses. Robbo has great whip and pace on his delivery hence why he takes set pieces as well. Robinson is more of a hit the by-line and cut it back kind of player. It often goes under the radar because of how good Trent is, but Robbo has the most Prem assists in history for a defender.
I'd be happy with Robinson myself, but I'd be lying if I said there wasn't aspects of the role Robertson is superior at.
{Ed001's Note - if he is like Walker, then he is a woeful defender. Kyle Walker is one of the worst defenders I have ever seen 1v1 or at tracking runners. All he does is outrun people. He has no defensive mindset at all, that is why he keeps getting caught out this season as his pace is starting to go.}
09 May 2024 12:04:31
I think he’s a great left back, great addition if we could get him. My cousin went out with him for a while when he was with Everton and Bolton, she used to go and watch him play.
Probably love to be back on Merseyside.
09 May 2024 12:49:56
Easy WDW3 :
Left back = Robbo.
09 May 2024 13:10:52
I get what you mean Ed001, as Walker does get caught napping and although he relies on pace it is effective a lot of the time to be fair. He's definitely over rated though, I agree. Robinson is less reliant on pace though and I think has better anticipation of danger. Just meant he reminds me of him in some ways in terms of his running power to just bully wingers out of games, like we've seen form Walker at times.
{Ed001's Note - I am not convinced by Robinson, I think he is too reliant on pace and gets easily taken out of the game by the better teams. Plus it is pointless buying a wing-back like him when Slot favours inverted full-backs by all accounts. He will be useless cutting inside as he lacks technical quality on the ball. For me Robinson is at his level and very often goes missing as he is not quite good enough to step up.}
09 May 2024 13:57:12
Robinson has had a good season and is a good player but that’s it. If Liverpool are signing a left back it should be someone like Davies or Theo Hernandez. I think the best thing to do is go with Robertson and keep Beck as competition. Sell Tsimikas. And spend in other areas.
{Ed002's Note - Zero chance.}
09 May 2024 13:58:58
Love it Ron ??.
09 May 2024 13:51:04
Kerkez or Ait-Nouri would be my preferences. Both are much better than Robinson technically.
09 May 2024 13:51:27
What about Ait Nouri or Kerkez Ed1? Both better player than Robinson I think. I read some report saying that Slot doesn't fully inverted his full back, but rather only at certain time.
Maybe like Trent vs Spurs when he occasionally invert instead of fully inverted most of the time. And what I understand is that his full back still provide the width needed as he prefers his wingers playing closer to goal.
{Ed001's Note - Ait Nouri is more skilfull and a better 1v1 defender, but he does have concentration issues and can go wandering without thought at times. I would take him rather than Robinson but I still wouldn't pay for him.
Kerkez is very good going forward, which he will do no matter the circumstances of the match. However he is a very weak defender.
Personally I would rather give Beck a chance than buy either of them. Robertson has a year at least in him to guide Beck on. Why spend needless money when the option is right there for free that is on a very similar level but with potential to be better?}
09 May 2024 14:37:20
Agree on the inverted point Ed001. Can't see Robinson as being very effective at that.
If we're going to be playing the full backs inverted then i don't think it matters too much if they are left footed? So I'd probably go and test Spurs resolve for Porro or consider letting Slot bring Geertruida with him.
{Ed001's Note - but they would still be playing out of position when the team drops off defensively. You still really are better with a left footer there.}
09 May 2024 15:16:31
Ed001, I always thought it worked better for City in possession when Cancelo was at left back as a right footer because then he was coming inside onto his stronger foot. But fair point on the defensive side of it. Be interesting to see how Slot utilises his full backs though, as I hear he really likes to stretch the width of the pitch but then also hear he plays inverted full backs. Hard to see how you can do both unless he plays with really high and wide wingers.
{Ed001's Note - Cancelo was a special case as he was so good.}
09 May 2024 19:51:22
I think the choice of a new LCB will be someone comfortable playing LB. Rotating with Robbo dependent on the opposition.
A more defensively minded LB would provide more cover when Trent goes AWOL as the inverted RB.
09 May 2024 20:50:27
Do you think Beck can play inverted Ed? Looks a player be a shame if he couldn’t fit into the setup.
{Ed001's Note - I think he can, he has the necessary technical ability. Not sure it makes the most of him though, he is much better at getting forward than holding deep.}
10 May 2024 00:53:50
Chambers is also able to play LB and LCB. I think he played both positions when he was out on loan at Bolton last season.
10 May 2024 08:41:44
Interesting Ed1. Do you think Beck is as good as Bradley? I know how high you rate Bradley, wonder if you see him in the bracket as him.
{Ed001's Note - no, not at that level.}
12 May 2024 09:52:36
FlyPelicanFly, exactly. Seen the kid play and sure he has pace to burn and can get forward on the overlap BUT he is not a good defender, lacks any type of end product and is bang average technically. Oh, and he is NOTHING like Robbo, imo.
We can definitely do better than him or better yet, give Owen Beck a shot rather than overpaying for someone that bang average. Just my take.