12 May 2024 19:21:13
Next season will be all about Harvey Elliot, surely. This lad can play. He will break into the England team as well. My favourite player without a doubt.
12 May 2024 20:56:55
Struggles to start for us, Where does he start for England?
12 May 2024 20:58:08
Where do you think he'll play next season for Liverpool and England, Nicol?
There is a place for him at Liverpool but he's not at the level that to take us to or above City and Arsenal standards. Maybe if we strengthen the team Elliott could play a part in improving us but I don't think he'd be improving City or Arsenal.
12 May 2024 21:20:00
If we play 4-2-3-1 then I suppose he could play ahead of the double pivot as a 10? Not sure he's fast enough to play on the wing or defensive minded enough at this stage of his development to play in a double pivot. Be interesting to see. He's got a lot of ability and he's a hard worker.
12 May 2024 22:03:30
Agree to a large extent with Nicol.
Slot likes technical players who can move the ball quickly and break the lines with quick 1-2s. Elliott will fit right in.
12 May 2024 22:16:34
He’s still yet to show me he’s anything but a natural number 10 playing out of position.
12 May 2024 22:29:25
Elliots 21 and excellent. He'll keep improving ans become top drawer.
12 May 2024 22:52:03
You can work on speed and power. Just have a look at a similar case in Orkun Kokcu and the specialised training program Arne Slot put him on because he knew the technical ability was there. However, the pace and power was to play as an 8 was lacking. Kokcu actually went onto have his best season and Feyenoord ended up winning the league. Which incidentally earned him a move to Benfica. So if Slot fancies Elliott as a 10 he will give him the best tools to effectively play that position.
One thing I have gathered is Arne Slot is well known for his tactical ability and Pep Guardiola like obsession for studying the opposition as well as improving his players. Also he likes playing either academy players or young players who are signed. Another thing is he is know for is training players into positions they weren't originally known for, and to great success mind. So don’t be surprised if we see that at Liverpool.
Now I’m not saying we will be winning multiple trophies right out the gate as patience is required. But the more I read about Arne Slot, the more I understand why Edwards chose him to be Klopp’s successor.
12 May 2024 23:32:57
If Harvey develops and plays as a 10, is he taking Bellighams place in the England line-up?
13 May 2024 02:20:31
Think Harvey is more than quick enough to play on the wing. We very rarely have space in games to be in a straight sprint and I wouldn't describe him as slow.
harvey is quick of mind and agile. That is all he needs for the wing in our team.
13 May 2024 06:48:33
As long as Southgate is England manager Elliott could play anywhere, maybe in a back 3.
13 May 2024 07:37:50
Apparently Southgate is a fan of Elliot’s. When asked about him he was quoted as saying “Elliot is currently his 115th choice right back”
Which in theory means he’s still got a shot at going to this euros.
13 May 2024 07:39:34
Elliott is not quick and he's not talking Bellingham's place in the England team. Bellingham is younger than Elliott, too.
Slot could improve Harvey Elliott, make him quicker and stronger but it's highly unlikely that next season will be all about him. I think some of you are looking at him through rose tinted specs because he didn't feature as much as others in the poor run at the back end of our season.
13 May 2024 09:03:29
Rigsby, Im one of Harvey's biggest fans even when many on here were getting impatient with him and wanted rid. He is a very good play and his technical ability on the ball, his vision and quickness over 5 yards are really good.
However like you, I think there is some recency bias going on with his performances of late and how people are assessing things. Has he had very good to great games for us this year? Of course BUT let's not overdo things here.
IMO, The kid is ripe for an elevation in his game and Slot is very interesting with the ways he improves players like @Alonso said with Ozcan and what he reportedly did to improve Santhiago Gimenez by changing his running style completely. I look forward to the work Slot can do with ALL our players, not just Harvey.
13 May 2024 09:46:19
I don't think it will be all about Elliott but I do think it could be the year he really takes off and becomes a regular starter for Liverpool. He's been around so long people take it for granted how young he is.
I've always likened him to Juan Mata as a player and Mata's career really took off around this age (20/ 21). For players so small in stature who also lack pace, it is their technique and their intelligence that they rely on to succeed, which are attributes that take a little longer to hone.
Bellingham never had to worry about that because he's big, strong and a powerful runner so it's an unfair comparison. Kane didn't hit top level until 22 because he lacked pace and was always off balance so he had to learn how to find a yard to set himself and get a shot away. All players career trajectories are different. Never say never though. At 21 years old when Kane was behind Sturridge, Rooney, Ings, Austin and Welbeck who'd have predicted he'd break the record for most England goals ever?
Elliott's got good vision, an explosive shot with very little back lift and exceptional work rate. I think we could see him go get 10 goals and 10 assists in the league next season quite easily. He can certainly break into the England squad, but breaking into the first XI when he's up against the likes of Bellingham, Foden, Saka and Palmer will be tough.
13 May 2024 09:48:38
I think Elliott is having an overall decent season with us. Always trying and never giving up are the two things that we can expect from him without fail, and that is what endears him to us. Definitely rose-tinted but I want him to succeed with us and have a good career purely because of that. He has improved from last season to this season, not only in stats but in overall performance, so I won't be surprised if he continues on this trajectory into next season as well.
13 May 2024 10:41:17
Ed01, if we play with a 10, which I guess we could with. 4 - 2 - 3 - 1 do you think that Carvalho might find a place in the squad? Do you think he could be good enough or not and would his attitude towards Klopp be too much of a risk in terms of his character?
{Ed001's Note - not because of his attitude towards Klopp, but because of his attitude in general. He threw his toys out of the pram rather than working harder. I would want to have a seriously long chat with him before I considered him.}
13 May 2024 14:52:49
Fair comment Ed01 - hopefully he matures as a person and comes to appreciate what’s required in terms of attitude. To be fair from the little I have heard he seems to be putting the effort in at Hull.