Liverpool banter 247315


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06 May 2024 12:58:13
Abusing players / their families online has got to stop, and we as fans have to call out our friends if we see it, and educate our young family members.

The social media companies need to do more in my opinion though. With all the AI technology out there, surely they can develop a way to pre-check every tweet, comment, instant message or new post etc. At least make it harder for these trolls to send their abuse. It's far too easy. I could send a horrible message to every player in the Liverpool squad within 5 minutes and still have time to make a cup of tea.

The police and the CPS also need to start taking cyber crime more seriously. Just watched that Netflix show based on a true story (Baby Reindeer) and it's a great example of how quickly "harmless" messages online can escalate into serious physical threat.

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06 May 2024 13:31:02
It just shows how many nutcases are out there and you are right, MK; it's too easy for them to seek attention. That's what it's all about. Them.
The Live Chat on here could be very unpleasant.

Ps. me and the Missus have been enjoying Baby Reindeer. A few twists to it, too. Very good viewing.

06 May 2024 13:42:17
I don't get with the argument "ah these lads are earning this much and much, they should get hold of it bla bla"

These lads are human beings. To the trolls, this is how you treat fellow human?

06 May 2024 14:00:04
Spot on, MKS. I fully agree with your stance.

HaizanMSS, I think people who say that are just jealous of these players and pro athletes in general making all this money, as if it was handed to them and they NEVER had to bust their arses working their butts off training, staying disciplined and sacrificing their bodies and other pleasures in life trying to fulfill their dreams, knowing full well that it may not even happen for them.

06 May 2024 14:10:15
Main media are reporting this. Usually we say main media are click bait so what makes them correct with this.

Do we honestly believe these footballers are sat there at night reading the thousands of messages they get daily from strangers.

If they are I might message Mo now and ask him if he fancies lending me a tenner until pay day.

06 May 2024 14:19:34
I've never partaken in the live chat so can't comment on that. I have no issue with people coming on here and passing judgement on a players ability, attitude, performances etc. That is not abuse and there has to be a degree of common sense about what is and isn't abuse or we will dilute the meaning of the word.

It's the people sending personal insults, hate crimes and threats that's got to stop.

06 May 2024 14:27:58
This is the story that comes out every time a player changes settings on their social media profile (s), and the majority of the time there is very little evidence to corroborate the threats or “abuse” allegedly received. Sending threats of a violence or racist nature is already illegal and authorities have the technology available to ensure the majority of those who do it can be caught.
If players want the benefits and reach that social media platforms bring (they would collapse overnight if the only things that could be said were positive), they have to accept that some people are vile, have poor self-control and little ability to consider the consequences of their actions, and that the Internet offers these morons carte blanche to say whatever they like when they wouldn’t dream of doing so otherwise. IGNORE THEM.

06 May 2024 14:29:33
It really is a disgusting arguement to think because someone is in a position of financial luxury that it is more acceptable to abuse them, their loved ones and family.

Does anyone seriously think Darwin is intentionally not trying to improve or become a better player? That he isn't trying to reach his own aspirations and goals? To make personal attacks on a guy because you are that much of an entitled fan you think he owes you something in return for your support, is a disgusting way to treat another human being.
Players aren't robots and shouldn't be treated to mental abuse because people believe being in a privileged position makes them immune to a barrage of abuse from supporters. The name speaks for itself. Support the players who wear the shirt of the club we support.

06 May 2024 14:33:06
Mk you would enjoy the live chat mate. Some great personalities in there.

06 May 2024 14:50:46
Some people are just heartless losers. We have to accept that. But we don’t have to accept that those heartless losers can just say what they want online with impunity.

06 May 2024 15:19:19
If people are abusing his wife or kids then those social media keyboard warriors have no place supporting our club. Problem is you are always going to have those that take it too far, whether that's on the live chat, main chat, in the stadiums or on social media. Stating one domain is worse than the other simply cannot be qualified. As the saying goes there are ****heads in every walks of life and especially in every football club.

Now, with Nunez deleting all Liverpool related posts from his Instagram. I am almost certain he has had his comments disabled for months now so it would be virtually impossible for anyone to comment on his posts. And his wife has always had her profile set to private so any scumbags thinking of leaving vile comments on her posts would find that an impossible task.

Its telling how he deleting all Liverpool content, which leads me to believe this could be directed at the club and unrelated to what is being reported. Maybe he has been told he is up for sale or maybe I am reaching and it is what it is, in that a number of scumbags have somehow managed to leave vile comments on his Instagram posts and abuse him and his family, which would be a shame as our club stands for much more than that.

06 May 2024 15:26:20
Yes, Faith. Losers cos they didn't have the guts to chase their dreams and fulfill them so they go around abusing players and pro athletes just cos these individuals never quit on their dreams and succeeded and are getting their fair rewards for it. Miss me with these absolute weaklings, man.

06 May 2024 16:29:56
Alonso not sure if you've seen the clip on social media, at full time he went straight down the tunnel no handshakes or clapping for the fans who have been chanting his name all season even though he hasn't really merited his fanfare. We can all say he tries hard but surely that's non negotiable? Problem is the lad isn't very bright. He's been here 2 years and hasn't got any better.

06 May 2024 16:31:40
Looks like he might be off in summer. He doesn’t deserve abuse, but let’s face it, he’s not been good enough of late.

06 May 2024 16:37:08
Why are the players even allowing comments to be posted on their social media. It always going to end with idiots going OTT.

06 May 2024 16:46:50
I hope we see more of Gakpo next season. He should have been given more starts.

06 May 2024 16:48:56
@Amorim. I did mate, which makes me think he was already annoyed about something else. Me theory could be completely off but I think he has been told he is up for sale because deleting all Liverpool content when (again could be wrong) your Instagram has had comments disabled for months doesn't tally with what is being reported. That being said, no one deserves online abuse, especially if it aimed at family. But something tells me there are other things going on.

06 May 2024 16:49:35
Can I also ask posters where are you getting sources he's been abused or threatened? Not one media outlet has reported such only trolls on twitter so why the he was abused narrative?

06 May 2024 17:06:21
He worked his socks off yesterday in his brief cameo. No doubt about his work rate.

I assumed he was annoyed about the 1-on-1 miss at the very end of the game.

06 May 2024 18:29:27
Adam, we said the same thing last season about Gakpo YET when he was struggling with goalscoring form this season, he was the one getting abuse from the fans to the point that some on here were saying Jayden Danns should start ahead of him cos he was killing it in you know, the U-21's. Gakpo then said, he did not care what fans who mock him think about him and these same fans clutched their pearls in fake outrage. Now Gakpo is back in form playing better and scoring goals, he is now back to being the one to watch for next season. Rinse, Repeat.

IMO those who constantly go at him, NEVER wanted him to begin with cos whe Darwin was scoring goalsand creating assists in his purple patch, they all went quiet. Now that he is struggling, they are back to their usual abusive selves. Diaz got it when he was struggiling as well but like Darwin as soon as he started scoring, they got of his back till the next time he starts struggling. See the pattern here?

At the end of the day, the modern day fans like these people lack the bottle they persevere with a player when they are having a rough time even if they don't rate them. The players are boss provided they are playing well with G/ A and all that mess. As soon as they start to struggle, they drop them like a hot potato and clamour for the next best thing they just saw on youtube.

06 May 2024 19:04:13
The thing about social media is it could be anyone behind that keyboard. So non-Liverpool fans can abuse players unrestricted.

It doesn’t make sense for players to be on SM. They should employ someone to manage it for them . It should be for increasing their profile and nothing else.

If the players want to be on SM for other reasons, it’s easy for them to do it anonymously.

06 May 2024 19:29:33
Social media has a few benefits but for me it’s far outweighed by the negatives. Bots, people from across the globe and locally can send a message within an instant. No filter, no remorse or consequence and it’s in the public domain.

Years back you needed to find the address, write a letter, then be bothered to post it. I’d gather more often then not somewhere along that trail they’d realise it wasn’t worth it!

This page has people vetting posts, some see it as a bad thing but more often then not it doesn’t get personal and it never should. Social media needs similar but it won’t be allowed as it’s seen as surpressing free speech.

Nunez plays for us and imo busts a gut when he does. He’s erratic with his finish but causes chaos when on it. I get why some get frustrated with him, but I think there is a very good player in there.

People can be constructive on their opinions but just throwing out abuse because someone’s had a bad game says more about them then Nunez.

06 May 2024 21:08:40
Whether Nunez has disabled comments doesn’t stop DMs.
Also, speculating either way with the apparent intention to make this more about Nunez than the potential of fan behaviour is dismissive

Those fans who abuse online and also the fans who just criticize players endlessly are like zombies moving from body to body. Just gnash away at the body they’re focused on and then move on when they’ve lost interest. As someone else said, Gakpo had his turn and now it’s Nunez.

That we talk about it as if it’s acceptable to receive threats and vile abuse at some point is a sad indictment of some fans today.

06 May 2024 21:38:23
Completely agree it needs to stop.

Rigsby, it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if a couple from the live chat were part of the problem.

06 May 2024 22:08:40
Darwin Nunez has a work ethic I've not seen since Dirk Kuyt. The lad is always trying so hard.

Is he an elite finisher? No, has he been poor finishing lately? Yes, but he has actually contributed a lot this season despite that.

Let's also remember he's still young and has had a massive injury that hindered nearly a year of his development.

Hes the reason we've got many of our goals this season even if not scored or assisted them it's his unpredictability and workrate that has opened the door for others.

I don't think he's an 85m out and out striker, but in this market with some time and faith to regain his head he will bring enough to the overall game to be good value at that imo.

06 May 2024 23:35:38
Grow up you bunch of wallflowers, if I was earning 200k a week I'd take abuse all day long, this is what is wrong with society today, your in the spotlight get paid a fortune but can't take the stick.

06 May 2024 23:59:37
It's going on a lot mate and will never be stopped, not unless they pull the plug on social media platforms which in my opinion they should do but it'll never happen. Children are getting bullied on sites like insta and facebook. It's alarming.
Police are involved but there's only so much that can be done and to be completely honest it's been brushed under the carpet for far too long. It's one of them which has got worse over the years (since MSN chatroom days) and not enough effort was put in to tackle it, now there's just too much of it. Death threats, bullying, abuse etc, it's got to a rediculous point. Shut the lot of it down. Social media is poison, always was and always will be.

07 May 2024 03:06:12
Oli - with you 100%. Some fans here seem to think that these people accidentally became professional footballers. they talk about them as if they just fell off a production line and got lucky and just happened to choose to be a footballer.

I find it laughable that us average folk who haven't put in the effort or made the necessary sacrifices to get to the level of even a Jan Krompkamp can sit here and tell these guys what they should and shouldn't put up with.

I 1000% guarantee that if any of these tough talking folk were in the public spotlight in their own job they would be begging to be back to being a nobody.

07 May 2024 08:08:42
Jim, there's a difference between abuse and stick. And what is more wrong with society is people thinking it's ok to abuse someone all day long.

07 May 2024 08:45:34
What's this weird agenda against the live chat?

07 May 2024 13:36:23
I said the Live Chat could be very unpleasant because it could.
I've seen lots of hysterical unpleasant nonsense on there. I think the worst was when Madrid battered us at home. There are also a lot pleasant posters on there.
They might be all pleasant now that I'm no longer a member ? but there is no weird agenda.
Feelings run high because it is live and some contributors were unable to display their dissatisfaction responsibly.



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