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17 May 2024 14:37:16
Thank you Klopp for being honest about VAR. Am not sure he would said that if he was staying next season but who cares. What he said is absolutely correct! I just wish there were more high profile managers or owners that would do the same šš¼šš¼.
17 May 2024 16:48:36
Longthing, Klopp is letting it all hang out cos he's out the gaf. Can you blame him?
17 May 2024 14:19:08
"Not being champion by a point is not a great experience but it's an experience. " Klopp at his last press conference. I think that actually sums up his time with us perfectly. It certainly has been one hell of an experience, ups and downs and everything in between.
Thank you Jurgen for everything.
17 May 2024 13:14:15
Edd001 if Madrid make a huge bid for trent do you see him staying or leaving?
{Ed001's Note - he would prefer to stay.}
17 May 2024 14:23:21
What is Trent even worth now?
17 May 2024 14:11:37
I hope he does Ed001. Must be a slight temptation given he's good mates with Bellingham, but it's a little bit like the Coutinho situation. Stay here and he can be a legend. Go to Madrid and you're just another player who they will replace with a new Galactico without hesitation.
I just hope he stays as a midfielder or a winger. He used to shine there at youth level and got compared to Gerrard. I read a lot that he's too slow but he is actually a very powerful runner. He's not the quickest off the mark and that does hamper him up against explosive wingers, but once he gets going he has that same power that the likes of Gerrard and Vieira had carrying the ball or making a run beyond a team mate. I'd put him in as AM or RW where he looked best at youth level. I have no doubt that he'd smash it in either of those positions.
He's far too good going forward for us to want him to leave so it will surely come down to his decision.
17 May 2024 14:36:37
I really hope he stays. Our best player on the ball, no doubt about it. Get him playing further forward.
17 May 2024 14:43:38
Trents a boyhood red and his likely ambition will be to captain LFC, win the league and CL with his boyhood club.
Technically he's done all that already and with us about to go through a managerial change how close are we to winning the league and CL title next season or so on.
Real are building a world class squad with the new galacticos of Vinicius, Mbappe and Bellingham etc.
The pull of Real if they do want Trent might be too much.
In 7 months time he can negotiate a free transfer. It seems that all the negotiating power is with the player.
17 May 2024 12:26:17
I'm having trouble replying to posts so thought I'd post a new one, in relation to the debate surrounding Trent. As I've already posted, I personally don't think he's able to cut it as a top class midfielder. I just think we would end up with a luxury player, who on the odd occasion smashes one in from 20 yards and plays one or two Hollywood passes a game. I can't see him being any better than Mac Allister in an advanced midfield role and he definitely doesn't have the attributes to play the holding role. He may be an adequate right sided midfielder, but then where does that leave Szob, Elliott and others.
So, as I've previously said, he needs to knuckle down and fight it out with Bradley for the right back spot. I personally think if we could get a Fabinho type holding midfielder, who can get across the pitch quickly, Trent could go back to being what he once was.
17 May 2024 12:41:28
He needs to put in more of an effort and stop believing all the hype around him, Hollywood passes and strolling around the pitch is no good.
17 May 2024 12:41:46
You might be right to be fair mate. If Slot really wants to play with an inverted full back then a Trent fully applying himself defensively is as good as it get's in theory.
THe key will be getting him to apply himself. That attempted challenge on Calvert-Lewin from the corner in the Derby loss was pathetic.
17 May 2024 15:09:39
The good thing is heās got real competition for a place, hopefully he will be made to work for it. Heās slacked off a bit and got complacent in recent years. The defence needs solidifying itās been shocking this season at times.
17 May 2024 08:05:29
Trent will stay and wants to stay. he should be moved to midfield and a team built around him. We are not desperate for money and selling your most valuable player just because it would raise funds is completely daft. I have no doubt he will be a midfielder next season with Bradley at RB.
Even though I fully believe this should happen itās quite tough to decide who else plays in midfield between Mac and Harvey, obviously with a new DM hopefully coming in. Trent should also be appointed captain and Lord of Frodsham.
17 May 2024 08:46:55
Trent isn't a midfielder and never will be in my opinion. He needs to fight it out with Bradley to nail the right back position. We all wait to see what Slot's take on it is, as it's only his opinion that matters.
17 May 2024 09:29:30
Slot likes inverted FB's so I think Trent is going to play the same role under him. Personally, I do not like this whole inverted stuff for reasons I have explained already and think Trent should either play RB or in midfield and not both in one go BUT, what can I do. Let's see how Slot plays him in the inverted role and then, we can judge cos he may just tweak it a little bit.
17 May 2024 09:42:26
Rome1977, I think Trent has to become a midfielder for us. His attitude to defending has been dreadful. I do think though that he could be superb in a free role behind the forward or out wide on the right side of attack whipping in crosses.
His ability to create from deep is great but it's no longer worth the lack of solidity at the back in my opinion, because he's regressed defensively for some reason. I'm concerned he might push for a move to Real Madrid though. I get that he's a local lad but that didn't stop Mcmanaman or Owen! If we're serious on Rodrygo to replace Salah as well, Madrid might see that as an opportunity to twist our arm.
17 May 2024 10:28:44
I would 100% try him in midfield in preseason, that's the only way to tell if he'd fit a system.
17 May 2024 10:56:08
Seen the quotes that Bellingham has been sending Trent pics of houses for sale in Madrid.
We all know clubs will get players to have a word with their mates etc. So i can't imagine Bellingham is doing this as a joke and Real are very much interested in Trent.
17 May 2024 11:04:46
Might as well put Alison in midfield.
Both would be as about as useful as each other there.
The best thing for Trent and Liverpool would be for Trent to move on to a new club.
17 May 2024 11:17:54
The best thing for Liverpool? Have a word!
17 May 2024 11:50:15
Didnāt Trent play in midfield coming through 5he age groups?
17 May 2024 12:16:55
Lol Walter, I agree Allison could probably do a job anywhere in the team and I could see him and Trent in midfield if injuries got too bad. Totally agree with MK here, Trent is a forward player and can hurt any team in the final third a born playmaker. Behind a striker that can finish this would be deadly.
17 May 2024 12:27:20
Trent did play in midfield when he was coming through the ranks. And I don't get this "attitude towards defending" thing.
I believe that Trent is not being asked to track back but rather, be on standby to receive the ball when our other defenders win it so that he can launch a ball forward. And we all know he has the ability to do that. It sounds nice on paper but in practice, it just overwhelms our other defenders as they are being pulled all over the pitch. When Trent, as he has done occasionally this season, sticks out wide, he would track back and we look solid. This tells me that he is by instruction, nor being told to track back.
17 May 2024 12:37:03
So Trent can't play in midfield because he switches off, can't tackle, can't head, doesn't sprint back all the time etc?
Mac, Szob, Grav, Elliott and Jones don't do the above either but TAA is a better passer of the ball than all of them.
17 May 2024 14:53:57
Finding all these āfansā who are asking Trent (one of our own) to move on very bizarre!
Thereās a reason Madrid want him.
Thereās a reason heās been top for most assists in a premier league season.
I am also very against selling local players that understand the culture of the club, to replace them with players who definitely donāt (eg Rodrygo) ā¦ who do you think will cut and run when times get tough? And who will stay and fight?
16 May 2024 18:12:40
We need a new starting CB and DM
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May be sell Konate to make space or spend money and have the new CB replace Matip.
VVD, konate/ SVB, new CB and Quansah will be CB options with Gomez as 5th choice.
In Mid Thiago is going, I could see we moving on frok Endo, C Jones or Gravenberch
We have Mac, Soboz, Elliot, baj as midfield along with one of above 2.
16 May 2024 20:15:17
I'd sell Gomez,3rd choice rightback and already 4th choice CB before we more than likely strenghten there or give Van Den Berg who's been excellent in Germany a shot. Would bring in decent cash towards actual first 11 starters.
16 May 2024 21:17:10
Aside from the fact that heās rubbish too - a complete liability as a ājack of all tradesā! Definitely sell him š.
16 May 2024 22:02:40
Shultzy are you a mechanic by any chance?
17 May 2024 02:10:39
Sell Gomez? Are you brain dead? what am I reading here, do you forget how good he was the majority of this season? Short memory you have. My f'n god.
17 May 2024 03:57:15
Sell Konate more to the point, he is injury prone, cannot string more than 4-5 games together, plays well for two games then lacks consistency and I find him clumsy too, just donāt rate him.
Keep Gomez for his versatility.
17 May 2024 05:10:47
At the beginning of the year and all the way until February, we were all singing praises of Gomez, saying tuag he has improved this season and should be pushing for a place on the England squad. Fast forward to after what has been a disastrous April for the entire team and we are now saying that he's a liability and should be sold. The word fickle comes to mind.
{Ed025's Note - i have never changed my stance on him Drac, clumsy player who will always be a liability mate..
17 May 2024 07:59:57
Iād keep konate he covers 2 positions with Trent flying about, is quick and I think Klopp was over cautious and chopped and changed too much.
17 May 2024 08:05:40
Ed025, is spot on in my view. I may catch some stick for this but I don't think Gomez has played well this season at all. I think people have just willed it into their minds that he did, because I've seen him play genuinely well maybe 3 or 4 times all season.
He's been better than the previous few years because he's been playing at full back and getting more regular minutes, but he's still very limited on the ball and weak defensively. The amount of attacks he has wasted blazing a shot over, sliding a simple give and go straight off the back of the pitch for a goal kick or smashing a cross straight out of play is ridiculous. More importantly though, he's still weak in the air, positionally clueless and lazy with tracking runners.
Pre-injury Gomez was still limited as a footballer, but he was so quick and strong he did a decent job alongside prime Virgil. He's never been the same though since that patella tendon injury and it really is time he moved now. I'd lump in Tsimikas with that too.
A team is only as good as its weakest link and when you have players like Tsimikas and Gomez who can't play simple one or two touch football, your whole build up breaks down and quite often you get done on the counterattack. They're the only senior players in our squad who just aren't top level on the ball and it's caused an over reliance on Trent and Robertson for years, which has totally burned them out too. Bradley is the first decent back up full back we've had in years.
I applaud the unconditional support some fans have given Gomez. In fact, I admire your patience to still hope he can get back to what he was. I have to say though that my opinion has never changed in the last 3 or 4 years and I believe he just isn't good enough.
17 May 2024 08:18:33
So thatās Matip, ibou, kostas, Gomez maybe Trent To get sold and then buy a lcb. Next season is going to be interesting.
17 May 2024 06:39:53
There is no doubt konate is a good player but neither his body nor mind seem capable to be our first choice CB thru whole season. so should we keep him as 3rd choice or SVB and Quansah can do a job there.
Gomez is needed as he can slot in multiple Positions and is no mug.
TAA to move to midfield and Bradley as starting RB. TAA and Gomez must be enough for RB cover
Tsimikas may be sold and replaced by a new younger player which has higher ceiling.
Endo is good player but should not be first choice for team with our ambition. we will get a new Defence minded midfielder so baj can be deputy. so no place for endo.
Jones, Gravenberch and Elliot are all to similar players and we should keep only 2 of above. Elliot will be staying however one needs to go.
We also needs to decide what to do with Carvalho
In fwd position Salah the legend seems to be having his last match with us.
Jury still out on Nunez but we should keep him as out of option.
Mac, new DM, TAA, Baj, Elliot and Jones/ Gravenbach and Carvalho as our new MF.
We should replace Salah with Soboz.
And sign a younger understudy.
So Diaz, Gapko, Jota, nunez, soboz and new guy will be fwd line.
17 May 2024 06:41:57
I would keep Gomez, good squad player homegrown and if Slot plays the inverted fb then I think Gomez is well suited to that.
17 May 2024 07:23:02
Not brain dead at all salah and I do realise he's had a good season. He would bring in good money because of that, would you like a new centre half Salah? im assuming you would, so would you let Konate, Quansah or Virg go ahead of a Gomez who has shown he is not good enough at centrehalf? Then would you play him ahead of Trent/ Bradley at RB? And we can't assume Robertson going to have another stop start season like this one and Beck the best LB in scotland is returning to the club. So where in hell is Gomez, someone we could realistically get 30-35m for going to get games. I love Gomez as much as the next fan, there was a time when I thought he was going to be top notch but his career hasn't turned out that way. We can't stockpile players out of loyalty, let's let the players not good enough to be here move on and give the new manager and Edwards/ hughes etc the funds to get some top quality in. We had. This same attitude with nat phillips and look how that's panned out.
17 May 2024 08:50:48
Bit much that, Salah, saying someone's brain dead just because they suggest selling Gomez. I agree he's filled in well, this season, covering various positions. He's very much a jack of all trades ( apart from scoring) but a master of none.
17 May 2024 09:28:17
Scouse John, I wouldn't sell all of them myself, that'd be too much transition. I think next season we should go into it with Robbo, Quansah, Virgil, Konate and Bradley from the current crop as defensive options. Trent I'd move forward as an AM and RW option. Bring Sepp Van den Berg (CB/ RB) back into the fold for sure, then bring Owen Beck (LB/ LM) or Chambers (LB/ CB) into the first team as well depending on who has the better pre-season. I think we only need to sign a new left sided CB such as Pacho who will be comfortable in a fluid backline, given Slot also likes to invert one full back.
I think our main issue defensively this year was tactics and the back ups not being fit enough or good enough. If our starting back 4 first game of next season was Robbo, Virgil, Quansah and Bradley I wouldn't be worried at all. However if I looked at the bench and saw Gomez and Tsimikas as the options to come on because Matip and Konate were injured again, then I would be concerned.
Robbo, Chambers/ Beck, Virgil, Pacho, Quansah, Konate, Van den Berg and Bradley is a decent 8/ 9 options for the defence that would be a huge step up on what we've had this season. That only requires us to move on Matip, Gomez and Tsimikas.
17 May 2024 10:30:54
I think gomez is over rated, you might as well try the youth, he realistically can only be trusted for a patch every season, his form is never consistent, and he is also injury prone.
He's been liable to plenty of goals this second half of the season which over shadows his good patch in my view.
If his wages weren't high i'd consider leaving him in.
Konate is an odd one, as he looked so good. Think you can only really make a decision once Slot has had time to look at our defence.
17 May 2024 10:58:08
I think Gomez issue this season is that he is 5th choice centre half, 3rd choice right back and 2nd or 3rd choice left back.
The good thing for him though is this is in accordance with Klopp who is leaving so the new manager might have big plans for him or he might not.
The same as every other player as its technically going to be a clean slate for the majority.
17 May 2024 11:10:36
I think lots of posters are under estimating Gomez. He's been excellent. If not for the horrific leg injuries he suffered he would currently be out best defender.
If he continues like this season there's no reason he will not fill his potential to become world class for a few seasons.
17 May 2024 11:51:36
Who are we going to replace all these defenders we are letting go / selling with?
17 May 2024 12:42:58
Gomez would have been our best defender were it not for his injuries? That is some statement, Walter.
He's not in the top five, for me.
17 May 2024 13:38:54
Epic statement RigsbyšBetter than prime Van Dijk n all. West Derby I would replace Matip and Gomez with a new CB or VDB if he is seen as good enough by the new coach and Tsimikas with Beck or a new leftback. Only Gomez out of the three has played anything near regularly this season.
17 May 2024 14:54:26
@June,
Would you leave TAA at RB or move him into midfield? If he does move into the mids we have, given the people youād see leave, are:
RB - Bradley
CB - VVD, Konate, Quansah and either VDB or a new LCB
LB - Robbo and Beck or a new LB
I donāt think that is enough numbers and certainly not enough proven quality to get us near the top 4 next season.
16 May 2024 17:41:14
We need a new starting CB and DM
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May be sell Konate to make space or spend money and have the new CB replace Matip.
VVD, konate/ SVB, new CB and Quansah will be CB options with Gomez as 5th choice.
In Mid Thiago is going, I could see we moving on frok Endo, C Jones or Gravenberch
We have.
17 May 2024 04:02:20
Agree with your first statement but would add a RW and a forward to our requirements.
100% agree on Konate too, donāt rate him and he is unreliable.
Would also agree that Gravenberch, should be sold to fund Koopmeiners deal, and I would like to see us add Varela too as DM.