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29 Apr 2024 23:49:41
Maybe I am playing devil's advocate, but I honestly think the incident between Salah and Klopp, is more down to Klopp then Salah.
Now, don't get it twisted I think Klopp benching Salah was the right decision, as his form has not warranted a start. Whether down to rotation, medical advice or sending a message, Klopp was well in the right, in my opinion.
However, if you watch the full replay of the incident, it does tell a story of its own.
At the beginning, Salah is getting ready to come on, he is focused on nothing more than the match. Then, Klopp walks over to him, leans in and says something to Salah. That is trigger for the arguement to take place. If not for Klopp approaching him, and having a quiet word, nothing would have happened.
Now, I don't know what he said, I have heard rumours that Klopp told Salah that if he isn't ready, or willing, then get back on the bench, but can't verify that. The incident was also apparently born from Salah not accepting Klopp's hug and only shaking his hand, begrudgingly.
The Anfield Wrap and other sources have suggested this is what happened, but we will never know until Klopp or Salah reveal it. If Klopp did say that, though, then I have to question what he was thinking.
I know Salah, through his agent, etc, has tried to explore a means of getting a move to a Madrid, Barcelona, etc. However, when it comes to the pitch, Salah has never feigned injury or refused to attend training or matches for Liverpool. He has always wanted to play.
So for people to call him unprofessional, and discredit his entire tenure at Liverpool, I completely disagree with. Admittedly it is a very small percentage, and most have rightly questioned Salah in the situation without labelling him as such. But, those that do, give your head a wobble.
I do, however, agree with the belief that Salah needs to be sold at the end of the season. He has been incredible for us, and I appreciate everything he has done, but his value will depreciate the older he gets or he may feel being out of contract might make him an even more lucrative prospect to a PSG or Saudi club.
Plus, 350k a week, for a player with this level of doubts is a concern. Every poor match he has, that wage will be directed at him in response. That he is not fulfilling his end of the bargain, etc.
As a result, I believe we need to attempt another Coutinho. I. e. Sell our most lucrative asset and use the money to buy 2 first team ready players. Not rotational, not prospects, but genuine starters that can come in and immediately improve the first 11. For me, those positions are right wing and centre back.
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30 Apr 2024 03:30:43
unless Klopp insulted him personally, his family or his dog, there is no reason for that kind of response from Mo.
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30 Apr 2024 08:02:24
Maybe Klopp said "Mo, go and win us the game. Get your finger out of your arse, start playing like you know you can and earn your wages (and there is plenty of it) .
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30 Apr 2024 07:30:01
It looked to me like Klopp went to give Salah a handshake all he does to all the players before going on the pitch and Salah blanked Klopp then eventually Salah just give Klopp the weakest high-five you’ve ever seen and at this point Klopp says something to Salah and it all kicks off. There are other videos out there from behind the dugout that show other footage.
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30 Apr 2024 07:42:31
Whilst I agree that now is probably the right time to move Salah on, diminishing returns and high earner. I don’t understand how anyone, or on what basis people can claim he has attitude issues…. in 6 years the weekend was his first public incident. He struck me as a frustrated figure which you would expect given his and the teams lack of form.
I also think it is a little early to say he is washed, before AFCON he was still our best attacker creating lots for others and scoring himself too.
I think if a decent offer comes in we should accept it but likewise if he sees out his contract, I will enjoy seeing him in a red a shirt for another season and I wouldn’t be surprised if he was our top scorer next year too
It would be interesting to know what the Ed’s would do with our frontline?
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29 Apr 2024 20:00:54
Absolutely ridiculous to keep Salah next season he is all washed up. I hope this is not true he must be sold.
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29 Apr 2024 20:28:26
LFC isn't going to say we don't want Salah after what happened on weekend. We need to have grip before salah's contractual situation get out of hand.
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29 Apr 2024 20:50:55
Let’s just see what happens. Liverpool have to put themselves in a strong negotiating position so to say ‘we don’t want Salah next season’ would just be stupid.
We have to say he’s an integral part of the team, he’s staying etc. etc. so we can demand the best compensation if someone else wants him.
I’m happy either way, the guy’s a legend. Not had his best season but most of his really poor form has been since he came back from AFCON with an injury. If you remember rightly has was awful after the last AFCON too and people were writing him off then.
If he stays I hope he gets his best form back with a new manager, if he goes I hope we get the most we can for him so we can sign a top replacement.
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29 Apr 2024 20:51:55
Nice to see true Liverpool fan turn on our best player after all he's done.
Having a bad patch every player has one.
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29 Apr 2024 20:53:27
Calm down, he will be evaluated by the new coaching team.
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29 Apr 2024 20:54:08
Washed up is chucked about way too much nowadays you literally have no idea what it means. yes he's been poor last few months but if washed up is scoring 17 goals and 9 assists sign me up. Everyone else
Must be terrible then. And before anyone jumps on stop defending him I do believe he should be sold now for the club the rebuild the front line a bit.
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29 Apr 2024 21:01:53
He’s our top scorer ain’t he? 😂 I’m happy either way with Salah. If he goes great if he stays great.
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29 Apr 2024 21:14:52
If he's washed up what does that say about Nunez, Diaz, Gakpo and Jota?
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29 Apr 2024 21:35:37
I think ideally we’d move him on but we’ve got 4 other forwards we want to keep Salah ahead of.
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29 Apr 2024 21:50:06
For me Salah should have been sold seasons ago. Possibly when the last contract was improved.
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29 Apr 2024 23:31:21
Reality is that Salah is in decline, he’s lost his pace, he’s struggling to beat even the slowest defenders. At his age he isn’t going to suddenly improve or get his pace back (not unless he starts taking the Lance Armstrong juice) and next season the issues we’re seeing now would continue to get worse.
Given that we work on a hand to mouth basis, the sensible and logical action is to sell now as this is the last opportunity we’ll have to get a good transfer fee. Salah will always be a club legend, that’s irrefutable fact, but times change and we can’t stand still.
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30 Apr 2024 01:20:23
We can't keep a player who thinks he's bigger then the club. He showed his true colours the other day, no respect at all. For me he has to go, it's a must. I don't care how many goals you score or how many you assist, you respect your manager and that's as simple as it gets. He's got above himself and we need rid. Slot's time to cash out :) .
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30 Apr 2024 07:26:09
Rising age, high wages, declining form, attitude issues, flirting with continental clubs. Plus he still has a decent value so time to trade him in. Great servant and record-breaking player but no point in being sentimental. Thanks for your time with us, Mo, best of luck.
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30 Apr 2024 07:42:36
The reality of the situation is that Mo hasn't been the same since the African Cup of Nations, he's about to turn 32, is on 350 k a week and has 1 ywar left on his contract. If the rumours were true, the Saudis were prepared to pay stupid money for him last summer, and it's safe to say they'll still pay crazy money to have one of the most visible truly world class Muslim players in their league.
Mo's legacy is cemented, he'll go down as the best right winger in prem history and one of the best goal scorers. We sell and use the money to improve.
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30 Apr 2024 07:47:57
Why have so many of you got a problem with Salah about the minor quarrel between him and Klopp?
Klopp seems happy enough to let it go but some of you are not.
Disrespecting the club? Come on!
And you need to remember that Salah has a contract with the club for another year and he doesn't have to go to the Saudi league just so that you can buy a new player or two.
He might even fancy playing in the CL again and Slot might like the idea of a proven goalscorer in the squad.
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29 Apr 2024 14:22:15
A bit of topic but does anyone know the release date of the new jersey. It's my Nephew's birthday on the 11th of May. Can't find anything anywhere.
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29 Apr 2024 16:27:08
Happy early Birthday to your nephew, man.
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29 Apr 2024 16:48:12
They’ve not announced a date yet mate but it says potentially early May online.
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29 Apr 2024 20:46:43
Isn't it usually out in time for the last home game? as they normally wear that kit to market it for next season.
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29 Apr 2024 21:03:14
I don’t even notice when they change the home Kit anymore. It’s just red. And they sometimes mess about with the collar, That’s it really.
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{Ed025's Note - thats just an excuse to wear your old Carlsberg shirt LFC8.. :)
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30 Apr 2024 03:26:23
Well played Endo a Liverpool kit is top tier gift and in the prestigious auntie uncle gift competition your nephew will easily have you at the top.
Last year I did little to no research and went from a clear top spot to dead last. I panicked bought a book and puzzle and I could tell the instant disappointment on the little guys face so well played mate well played.
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29 Apr 2024 23:32:12
Carlsberg? Crown Paints here Ed!
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{Ed025's Note - its hard to part with your old one VV as it evokes memories of good times mate, i have still got my Hafnia one from 84...and its nothing to do with me being a bit of a minge bag.. :)
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29 Apr 2024 14:19:00
Liverpool were seemingly very good at keeping things away from the media last time Edwards was here.
This Salah contract situation feels like a very meticulous leak, maybe forcing the Saudi clubs to move and move quick?
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29 Apr 2024 15:12:56
Salah will have a say in where he goes, if he goes. I don't think he'll want to go to the Saudi league. He'll want to play at the highest level and it won't be all about the money for him.
We can't just sell him to whoever we want.
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29 Apr 2024 16:11:43
I think he will 100% go to the Saudi League and the money will be a huge contributing factor.
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29 Apr 2024 16:19:30
I don’t think he has the legs to play at the highest level anymore or for much longer anyway, you can tell he’s already slowed down. Certainly wouldn’t get a new long contract in a league like the prem. one of the farmers leagues or Middle East I’d bet.
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29 Apr 2024 16:28:23
Salah's off, guys. That much w has been clear over the past few weeks with the way he has been performing and with that touchline bust up, who knows what's been going on behind the scenes?
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29 Apr 2024 16:37:23
I certainly think it is a brief from the club. How can anybody know whether Salah is staying or going? He has a new sporting director, a new head coach and the resolve of prospective buyers to contend with.
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29 Apr 2024 16:40:32
He won't stay here for much longer anyway. He might be offered another year on top of the year he has left; maybe on less money.
His legs might be going but he seems to look after himself and he's scored over twenty goals again this season.
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29 Apr 2024 16:49:12
Ornstein reporting today that he’s staying 🤷🏻♂️.
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29 Apr 2024 17:26:59
Well, if the fans want to sell the top scorer and he doesn't want to go, what are you going to do?
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29 Apr 2024 17:43:40
Difficulty, is that it is evident that his legs are gone and doesn’t really have the pace, it’s also awkward as he thinks he’s undroppable, given the weekends outburst, Slot would have the same problem of a player who isn’t really up to the pace of the league but who thinks he should play every week, which could be disruptive to the squad and be an unnecessary distraction. Maybe I’m being harsh, but I’d rather a players legs went on someone else’s pitch instead of ours. Now seems the right time to sell.
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29 Apr 2024 18:26:06
If he stays, then we lose him for free next year if he chooses to not sign an extension
The general feeling right now is that this is a tactic for players to get a huge salary at their next club.
Football has no place for sentiment.
Take the money and run or risk losing him for free.
I know what I'd choose.
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29 Apr 2024 18:56:08
Why is Salah disruptive and why was the disagreement at the weekend about him not playing? Was is it about him not starting because from what I saw, Klopp had a go at Salah when West Ham scored.
Even if Salah should have gone last summer because he has lost some pace and is still our top scorer, what if he doesn't want to go to the Saudi league? He still has a contract and he is still our top scorer.
I'd be seeing if Diaz and Gakpo would get any offers and interested in leaving before Salah.
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29 Apr 2024 19:23:53
If your boss has a go at you in public, the professional thing to do is to address it behind closed doors when the dust settles.
Don’t react and fan the flames, take it like a pro and deal with it later.
Whether the boss is right or wrong, you take it.
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29 Apr 2024 19:33:31
I’d keep him one more year then allow him to go on a free. I’d be bedding in a long term replacement next season, I’d be selling Nunez.
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29 Apr 2024 19:44:54
Ron, if my boss had a go at me and spoke to me disrespectfully, I might tell him to shut his mouth and suggest we deal with his problem privately and professionally.
Klopp had a go at Salah, rightly or wrongly, but as a boss you treat your employees with respect.
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29 Apr 2024 20:34:16
Rigsby. Do you know what Klopp said 🤷♂️.
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29 Apr 2024 20:55:55
Ok Rigsby, you might be looking for a new job whilst trying to have a meeting with your ex-boss.
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29 Apr 2024 21:37:32
IR, no I don't. Why do you ask?
Ron, I'm probably out of touch but no one would be getting rid of me for standing up for myself. Imo, Klopp instigated the disagreement and Salah gave him some back.
Storm in a teacup.
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29 Apr 2024 22:18:27
You stand up for yourself in private.
You don’t undermine your boss .
You don’t know what Klopp said to him but Salah (or any player) should keep a lid on it.
Nunez had it right, respect to him for intervening with Salah.
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29 Apr 2024 22:46:44
Ron, and you don't know what Salah said to Klopp. If we don't know what was said how was Klopp undermined?
Imo, Klopp was annoyed when West Ham equalised, had a go at Salah and Salah gave him some back. There was no handshake after the game either.
I'm not blaming one or the other and they could and should both put it behind them. As it stands, it was nothing. If there were more arguments then might concede fewer goals!
I like to see some spirit like Mane with Salah for not passing and Milner bollocking van Dijk for letting an opponent shoot in our penalty area.
It shows they care.
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29 Apr 2024 23:54:20
I don’t believe in coincidences and this report of Salah staying is all to convenient, Edwards is no fool and reality is either Salah signs a new contract or Salah is sold in the summer, whether he goes to Saudi is anyone’s guess but the club will for sure use the Saudi interest to inflate any other bids and I’m fine with that. Personally I think he goes to Saudi, his agent has been hawking him about for years to get better terms and all this talk of he wouldn’t want to play in x league and wants to be challenging for top honours is great in theory but let’s be honest Salah is out for Salah and if he can get 4 times the salary, rediculous endorsements and be the poster boy for the middle league above the likes of Ronaldo then I think he takes that all day long!
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30 Apr 2024 01:31:23
why are we so adamant that Klopp had a go at Mo?
Maybe all he said was "ok we really need you now" and then Mo got irked by that?
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29 Apr 2024 13:04:06
There is without doubt an agenda against Liverpool in the reffing side of things. If our players had fallen over like Everton players did for the softest of touches, we would never had gotten any of those free kicks. It takes our player to be seriously injured to gain any free kick. It's clear to see we just don’t get any decisions from the ref whilst he will give the opponent every decision.
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29 Apr 2024 13:55:19
It's nothing against LFC it's just some refrees make silly mistakes or have their own favourite teams. Coz yesterday the amount of mistakes referees did was unbelievable and coast Spurs potential a champions league spot.
Think next season will be huge discussion going on with clubs managers and PGMOL coz now we have clubs on a weekly bases having to put statement about the officials 🤷.
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29 Apr 2024 15:59:18
I don't think there is any agenda but I do think that we are on the receiving end of more bad decisions (in particular as you mention very soft free kicks against us and Salah being physically assaulted result in play being waved on) . It didn't feel like it a few years ago. It feels like Klopp's continuous ranting at the fourth official has had the opposite effect to what he was hoping.
Hopefully a change in the dugout will be enough for a bit of a reset next season but at the end of the day I truly believe that it is just the really poor standard of refereeing rather than corruption. To make matters worse it is then justified or glossed over by extremely biased media coverage.
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29 Apr 2024 16:33:45
"Chief Scout", I don't think there is any specific agenda against LFC even tho, it is clear to see that the way some of them conduct themselves vs our players esp at Anfield is quite insolent.
I think the refs are just flat out incompetent and could not give a toss how incompetent the look or are cos that is only matched by their insane levels of arrogance and do all types of crap and then say, "Yeah, so what? What are ya going to do? Fire me? ". That's how they act and this is what a lack of accountability looks like and that is killing every club right now.
Just look at the absolute shambles of a stunt that Taylor pulled at WH (not even going to talk about the 3 pens. he missed in the Forrest/ Everton game)? Trust me, had we still had a fair shot at the title and that happened, there would be absolute bedelum right now and the PGMOL wouldn't know where to hid. The only reason we laugh now is cos we ain't winning nothing so no one cares.
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30 Apr 2024 03:34:42
It's funny how we weren't at it in the first 20-30mins vs Everton but Everton were falling over at the slightest touch lol.
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29 Apr 2024 11:48:14
With Slot joining and players being given a fresh start do we think the previous view of VDB being sold may change and he will be given a chance?
Has looked like he’s really coming into his own this season, still young and HG if I am not mistaken!
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29 Apr 2024 13:37:54
Not sure what the obsession with him is, he's almost 23 playing for a team one place above the relegation zone with a terrible defensive record. Wed be lucky to get the £6 million optional future fee Mainz have agreed. Championship standard at best.
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29 Apr 2024 14:07:05
Should at least get a look in preseason Amorin. Based off your comments we shouldn’t have signed a certain Andy Robertson from Hull!
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29 Apr 2024 14:17:21
Basing a players ability from his team is ludicrous.
Southampton were 1 place off above the relegation zone with a terrible defensive record when we signed him btw.
I'd probably watch the player before making such assumptions of him being Championship at best.
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29 Apr 2024 14:37:18
I'd happily put my house on him not being here September 1st. Raise the bar lads, he's never shown anything other than a few decent performances for Preston. If this was ten years ago fair enough but i thought we had grown.
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29 Apr 2024 14:50:48
Amorim, he turned 22 in December he’s not “nearly 23”
He’s been one of their standouts in a team struggling. Have you actually watched him play?
Good on the ball with 88% passing accuracy this season, very quick clocking 4th highest top speed in the league, and has the 2nd best tackle success rate in the league as well.
And there isn’t a €6m already agreed fee with them.
Sure you are expecting some shiny young player for Every position who costs €30m+ when in reality we might already have an in house solution - everyone should deserve a clean slate and his performances this season has shown he deserves a chance.
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29 Apr 2024 14:53:37
I just love to know the basis for your opinion.
I haven't watched anywhere near enough to make my own opinion up but I certainly wouldn't write him off due to his teams ability.
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29 Apr 2024 16:26:52
Might as well sell van dijk and Konate, start the season with koumieto and vdb, would he be playing for Mainz at 22 if he was any good? He'd be in our first team like quansah, oh and he's as slow as a turtle so I'm sure he will fit right into our high line.
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29 Apr 2024 16:38:27
Yeah, Gun10. VDB must be crap cos the team he plays in are crap. If that was the case, Dortmund would NEVE had signed a certain Jurgen Klopp from a crap club like you know, Mainz cos clearly if his team is crap then he must have been a crap manager. Good freaking grief!
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29 Apr 2024 17:33:03
Slow as a turtle, he’s the 4th fastest player in the whole bloody league!
I am glad you aren’t running the club, you live in this fantasy world - look forward to repossessing your home.
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29 Apr 2024 18:07:49
Just been through every stat on the official bundesliga site he's not fourth in anything let alone top 30.
Just make up things to suit your agenda.
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29 Apr 2024 18:23:36
Amorin, stats don't matter to me, personally esp. without context. The thing is based on how dismisively and with the levels of blatant contempt you speak about this kid, tells me you have NEVER never seen him play this season.
WHy? Simple. If you had, you would have said so and used it to support you assessment cos that's what I or anyone else would do. After all if I've watched a player play, why would I not say I did and use it as a valid point in my argument? You didn't use it in your rebuttals hence, safe to conclude that you haven't seen him play at all this season, IMO. Your acts will betray you well before your words, mate.
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30 Apr 2024 06:20:12
@Amorin, you're right in saying that VdB is not the fourth fastest in the Bundesliga. However, he is far from being slow as a turtle. His top speed is 34.78km/ h which is fairly respectable considering the top speed is 36.41km/ h. He's actually faster than Florian Wirtz, the player some on here would like to be Salah's replacement. So, I believe you are the one who is making things up to suit your agenda :)
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