Liverpool banter 7

08 Oct 2025 14:43:06
Konate is a bang average center back if he was not at Liverpool he would never of been an international.

He is too aggressive when marking players, gives away far too many free kicks in dangerous areas, he is not helping Bradley and is being found out with Trent not here. if he wants to go, sell him in jan and get someone in to replace him. i don't agree with holding the club to ransom, the club that made him by winning trophies. i know i am a bit harsh, but that's my feelings about konate.
YNWA.

08 Oct 2025 15:03:39
Totally agree konate should of been sold in the summer he isn’t good at all and we should of brought in a decent partner for van dijk we just cannot defend or keep a clean sheet and I cannot see us winning the title this season as defensively we all over the place.

08 Oct 2025 15:14:20
Top fan.

08 Oct 2025 15:20:25
I agree that Konate is replaceable and we should very much upgrade on him regardless if he wants to stay or not.

But it is quite interesting how last season, people were saying that Konate was covering for Trent and how unfair it was for him and now, it is Konate who is being found out because Trent isn't here anymore. Nothing against your opinion, iwillbered since I doubt you were one of those who said the former about Trent and Konate. Just find it funny how quickly narratives can shift.

08 Oct 2025 15:34:27
His best trait was covering the gap left by Trent. But yeah he always had deficiencies even on his best days.

It's always bothered me is how poor he is as an aerial threat. He should have at least a few goals from set pieces.

08 Oct 2025 15:54:10
The only person not helping Bradley is Bradley, he's been awful so far this season. Barring a spell when Trent was injured in the 23-24 season and that tackle on Mbappe he's been bang average and massively overrated.

08 Oct 2025 15:55:58
If he was a bang average center half slot wouldn't have trusted him in a title winning team, let's be sensible here. Nobody's disputing he hasn't been right this season, but part of that also has to do with how disjointed we are elsewhere on the pitch and how exposed he is at times. I'm not saying that he is above criticism, but there's criticism and sheer hyperbole born of frustration at losing three games.

08 Oct 2025 16:02:48
He's not bang average, never has been, he was a French international at Leipzig. Trent never ever covered for Konate, what a load of codswollop. I don't particularly have a lot of good feeling towards Ibou if he's choosing the same path as TAA but let's not rewrite history to suit agenda. Behave.

08 Oct 2025 17:31:28
Is Konate the new whipping boy?

08 Oct 2025 17:40:59
wait till he signs for Madrid, plenty of posts then,

08 Oct 2025 18:31:58
How can you get upset at someone for seeing out their contract? He doesn't want to play for LFC beyond this year (it appears), that's his prerogative.

Why is ok for a club to tell players they don't want them and get rid but a player can't tell the club the same?

Long gone are the days of a player staying at a club for their career. Get over it.

08 Oct 2025 19:26:20
Konate has been dreadful this year . but last year I thought he played his best football for us.

08 Oct 2025 19:52:11
Don’t think anyone has played brilliant and consistently this season not just ibou, factor in the army or right backs he’s had to play with and the tactical changes a bit expected I assume.

09 Oct 2025 00:37:24
Iwillbered, has it come to this looking for a scapegoat to blame for our poor performances?
Arne will sort it out he just has to stop tinkering with the team but i have full confidence in him and the team
a bit of patience is all we need right now lads and girls
YNWA.

09 Oct 2025 00:48:38
Konate has shown that he can be a top defender, but he is inconsistent.

09 Oct 2025 10:12:46
PatrikBurgher, you speak way too much sense. I mean, look at the OP's first sentence. That is just rubbish cos there is NO way he or anyone can prove Konate that. Nor is there a way he can prove that Konate wouldn't make it as an international if he wasn't playing for LFC.

Upamecano who is no where near Konate's ability still starts for France and even Im not saying it is cos he is at Bayern. Cos again, I can NOT prove that. Cringe stuff.

08 Oct 2025 14:40:38
Anyone watched the Dalglish interview with Carra, Neville, Roy Keane, Ian Wright and a lady footballer (sorry can't remember her name) in what looked like a hotel.

Behind Carra was a plaque with an Everton badge and Jamie Carra - once a blue, always a blue - says it all. It's on youtube - the King is so funny.
YNWA.

08 Oct 2025 15:27:21
Wasn't SKD once a Rangers fan?
He is funny though.

08 Oct 2025 15:49:32
What says it all? The joke plaque Neville got Carragher? What does it say?

08 Oct 2025 07:39:02
{Ed's Note - 007 has posted a new article entitled, Was Heitinga / Slot The Secret?

08 Oct 2025 08:43:26
My apologies I thought all and sundry knew the reason why Federico was being completely snubbed, it does not require a google search just ask yourselves the simple question :

Who is the highest paid player at the club, and HAS to be because of this the first name on the team sheet every game, he gets the same money every week regardless of performance. What signal does that send out if you drop the man on the highest wages.

My apologies also again why has the so called PRESS not working 100% :

Just ask yourselves who is the number one trigger for the press, and therefore how can he do it when playing out of position for nearly half the games so far, in fact it was his dummy that won the game at NUFC because he was in the opponents box not his own.

If you still don't know Jurgen signed him to be his number one presser, ask yourself again who is also most influential in the press and his been moved back out of a position he has made himself world class at times during the games this season, again ye can't press when ye in ye own half not the opponents half of the field.

Square Pegs in Round Holes, you don't strengthen a position, by weakening other more important areas of the team.

Ekitike our top goal scorer on the bench for the Chelsea game, and our most inflential substitute this season Federico not even used, after getting us back in the game at palace are again bewildering selections.

08 Oct 2025 10:22:05
My worry is that there's a lot of talk about waiting for us to "click" and I'm really not sure that's the main problem. Sure, it will help a bit, but for me it's the total lack of balance in the team and the squad.

I think it was Shankly who once said "football is like a piano. You need 8 men to carry it and 3 who can play it. " As much as I'm not sure on that ratio in today's game, the point still stands. If you want to play with a number 10, 3 forwards and 2 attacking FBs, you absolutely 100% have to have 2 holding midfielders who are highly mobile with a fantastic engine - and even then it's stretching it. We are playing MacAllister who simply cant' do that job, at all.

This is the problem we have - we have totally the wrong profile players for the way we are looking to play. Surely the more sensible option would be to get one of the full backs to be more of the "defensive" type if you know one of your midfielders is going to be higher up the pitch (Wirtz)?

I really hope I'm wrong, but it looks like we have signed brilliant players that don't fit the system. To use Shankly's analogy, we need one or two more players who can carry the piano. Just my 10p worth!

08 Oct 2025 10:27:08
Chiesa plays on the left and his only competition is Gakpo who happens to be a Dutch and that’s your answer why he doesn’t get a look in. Salah has no relevance to Chiesa. In fact we don’t have a genuine RW bar Salah.
Isak doesn’t feature in our strongest first eleven.

08 Oct 2025 10:36:32
I think it's so so early to make any assumptions on new players/ coaches etc.

We re in an adjustment period.

It hasn't been seemless but just because it hasn't been seemless in transition does not mean it's not going to work out. Or it's time to panic. Or say this was better than that.

I need to see much much more before coming to an opinion on this or that.

But it's not a flying start. That I admit.

08 Oct 2025 10:51:16
@Wirtz 007, that made me laugh - Slot picks players based on nationality 😀😀.

08 Oct 2025 11:11:34
TBB
You are absolutely spot on. It’s a basic problem, lack of dedicated personals in key positions. We are not going to miraculously improve with McAlister and Gravenberch in the middle playing two offensive full backs and one dedicated playmaker.
Unfortunately Robbo and few others have shifted the narrative to “we are yet to click” “lack of chemistry” “lack of biology” etc etc.

08 Oct 2025 11:54:09
I know Chiesa can play on the left but why do people say he is a left winger and can replace Gakpo? Is it because he is right footed and would normally cut in? Or just because he played there one season with Juventus?

I ask this because I always remember him on the right, and even the great 002 told us in his time that he would have a Salah replacement in case he left the club.

08 Oct 2025 12:47:35
This is what we are dealing with WDW. People who honestly believe that Slot picks a player just because of his nationality.

These armchair tactical geniuses who obviously know better than a guy who’s dedicated his life to coaching at the highest level and has won titles in 2 countries.

Slot isn’t perfect. No manager has ever been perfect but he’s not an idiot. He knows his onions and he’s picking a team based on a multitude of factors not just because Wirtz 007 is throwing his toys out of the pram because we lost a couple of games.

Wirtz mate I have nothing against you and I even share your frustration but you need to grow up a bit. Players and teams have bad spells. Shankly went 7 years without a trophy yet he’s known as the best manager of all time (to most Liverpool fans anyway) .

You say we won’t ’click’ with Grav and Macca in the middle and Wirtz as the playmaker. How can you be so sure? Do you really think Slot and his team have just said ah sod it let’s chuck them in there and see what happens?

They will need coaching on the system, whatever it is and they will analyse the mistakes and train hard to eradicate them. That’s how it works. Players and teams are constantly changing, evolving into hopefully whatever the manager’s vision is.

You are a by product of an age where people believe that players have a defined set of attributes that can’t be changed. That players are like they are on FIFA. It’s not the case. The coach will have a plan when he sends the team out and the players will have to learn to execute it. The plan will change and evolve with time and experience and as other teams try to counter it but it’s not as simple as you think it is.

Sometimes you have to go through a little pain to reach the pot of gold. We did it with Klopp in his first 2 seasons. I remember the narrative of ‘he can’t set up a defence’ but once everyone got used to the system we were the tightest defence in the league.

Just have a bit of patience mate and stop being a big baby.

PS. Is Wirtz 007 Harry by any chance? It would explain a lot.

08 Oct 2025 12:50:29
I think we lost half of the games Chiesa started last season.
He only started one League game- which we lost and he was substituted- when we won the title by ten points.
Salah started every game, scored twenty nine goals and had eighteen assists.

08 Oct 2025 13:11:29
Slots made some wrong choices it seems but I trust him he'll go back to basics and figure it out he is a very good manager.

Just add Ekitke had 1 training session prior to chelsea he pulled up in the Gala game, Fede was nursing a knock aswell but probs should of come on.

the team will be fine its a couple bad results that's it personally I just want to see Frimpong and Kerkez overlapping with speed and getting balls in.

Giorgi
Frimpong Gomez VVD Kerkez
Dom Grav
Wirtz
Salah Isak Gakpo

with Eketiki rotating in and out with Isak or Gakpo every game or he starts and the others do the same. Fede coming in Jones and Mac coming in aswell but I do believe we need Dom back in Midfield to give us energy Mac is off it at the moment and shouldn't be in the team for now.

08 Oct 2025 13:16:29
Yes robbos, Wirtz007 is Harry. No other poster would come up with a nickname ridiculing our player and team like that but him.

08 Oct 2025 13:24:04
You say we won’t ’click’ with Grav and Macca in the middle and Wirtz as the playmaker. How can you be so sure? Do you really think Slot and his team have just said ah sod it let’s chuck them in there and see what happens?

Isn’t this what’s happening right now? He is trying very hard to fit in Wirtz into the team, playing him left, right and center without actually knowing how to play him. In Germany he was the chief in that Leverkusen side having far more touches of the ball per game (74) compared to England (48)

They will need coaching on the system, whatever it is and they will analyse the mistakes and train hard to eradicate them. That’s how it works. Players and teams are constantly changing, evolving into hopefully whatever the manager’s vision is.

I am sorry but McAllister isn’t going to become a Kante / Caicedo / Makelele breed by some black Magic and while unless Gravenberch learns to hold his position and not to sprint upwards every now and then teams will cut us through the middle.

You really don’t get why we are conceding goals and why our midfield is overrun don’t you? No you don’t mate.
The poster TBB was spot on with his assessment.

08 Oct 2025 13:37:45
Ekitike wasnt fit to start as he came off against galatasary with a slight issue, Slot explained why he didn't use Chiesa as he felt the team needed more control.
I do agree however that having 2 midfielders in your back 4 is bizarre.

08 Oct 2025 14:08:55
This is why you don't engage robbo, all you get is more drivel.

08 Oct 2025 14:20:34
Mac will improve because Oli is not letting him get away with a damn thing.

08 Oct 2025 14:21:17
We won the league last season with a midfield duo of Grav and Macca with 41 goals conceded, the second least in the league. And this is after our players got their flip flops out for the last four games too. It goes to show that that midfield duo can work in the right set up. But Grav is playing further forward now and Macca is way off form so it doesn't atm.

Anyway, the window is closed now so it doesn't serve any purpose to talk about what players we need that we currently don't have. So, the next best thing would be to drop Macca entirely and play Szob there. Tbh, I think Slot is trying harder to force Szob into the side than Wirtz, hence why he's playing Szob at RB now. I'd go with the lineup Kloppers posted up there. Maybe Ekitike instead of Gakpo or Isak, but I'd choose the same midfield trio of Grav, Szob, and Wirtz.

Just to add too, Wirtz has played some delicious looking passes so far this season and he would have gotten a few assists already if not for poor finishing. So I don't think he is the flop that everyone else seems to think. Had a few of those passes resulted in goals, people would be raving about him instead.

08 Oct 2025 15:45:28
I don't know why both Klopp and Slot play Macca so deep. He's a 10 (I know that's a rare position these days but that's his profile) . He's most effective up the pitch where he can do damage with a final ball or shot.

I know Slot likes all his midfielders to be good on the ball but Macca, even at his best, gets shrugged off the ball and accelerated past. He is simply not a deep lying midfielder to me. Klopp playing him as a 6 never worked and Slot putting him in a two doesn't work either. Or at least it doesn't play to his strengths. It's not like he's playing long diagonals from deep, he always plays it short.

Now that he's unfit/ recovering from injury he's costing us goals. I knew he'd be at the scene of the crime if we conceded when I saw him in the 11. He's too slow and weak to be left alone while grav moves up the pitch.

08 Oct 2025 15:54:59
Agree 100% with TBB's post. Gakpo, Worst, Salah, Frimpong and Kerkez getting pelters but in my mind Macca is the one that isn't fitting in right now. Not that he's a bad player or anything, he's great, but not as a holding midfielder. Play the best players for the system, not just your best players.
Does that mean Szob alongside Grab or maybe even Endo? I dunno, that's Slots problem to sort and I am sure he will.

08 Oct 2025 17:54:00
got to agree with a lot that has been said, but macca and frimpong should not be in the 1st eleven, more like to come on when Bradley gets his yellow card and gets taken off, or when konate gets an injury and also goes off, its happening too often .

07 Oct 2025 23:10:23


007 has written an article entitled, Was Heitinga / Slot the Secret?

07 Oct 2025 23:26:37
Has Slot his brain now.

08 Oct 2025 01:17:43
This whole article reads like a fever dream.

But I would agree that Heitinga leaving and GVB coming in has an impact and is one of the contributing factor. I wouldn't go so far as to suggest that Heitinga is the brains behind everything and that Slot is just a figurehead though.

08 Oct 2025 03:38:46
*Has Slot lost his brain now?
:D.

08 Oct 2025 05:15:12
Well, After mocking Sharpy continuously over his articles on UTD, it’s our time to do the same. #Karma.

08 Oct 2025 09:11:36
Pretty sure Sharpys hijacked a few accounts on here.

08 Oct 2025 09:31:02
Yeah @Faith, cos clearly Klopp lost his ability to think for himself as soon as his "Brain" left his body. And what happened after Buvac left? We actually got better and started winning big.

Man, take a day off, @007.


@Drac, I don't buy into any of that cos it is something we can't prove until maybe Ed01 provides info on it, for ex. Till then, it's just white noise and pointless conspiracy, something Im not surprised about under this climate of conspiracy theories.

For me, Slot is in charge and any of his assistants have the power/ influence he allows them to have. Same goes for Klopp. Not the other way around.

08 Oct 2025 10:52:38
Is Sharpy code for secret agent Shappy?

08 Oct 2025 11:06:50
@Oli, I'm not saying that it's a definite reason. Just saying that it is a probable one. GVB is a different person with different ideas than Heitinga and he would have some input as to tactics, similar to how Heitinga did. So it wouldn't be out of the norm to suggest that he would have an impact, regardless of how small it is, on our play this season.

Maybe I didn't make it clear too but I think the reason why we are playing poorly is a mixture of many things. From the changes to the system, the different players, the lowered intensity of trainings, the loss of Jota, to the changes in the backroom staff. All of this would play a part, be it a protective or contributing factor. It's nearly impossible to pinpoint where the exact issue is since all the factors above are interconnected in one way or another.

08 Oct 2025 11:46:01
Im not going to bother me hole reading his nonsense, I know for sure it’s going to be in capital letters, rubbishing our players ie CON-ate, I’ve a feeling his either very young or very old and not really a true Liverpool supporter, I suppose it’s bad enough posting about them.

08 Oct 2025 12:54:50
OliRed, you don't buy into something until Ed001 tells you what to think?
Yeah, we already know.

08 Oct 2025 17:58:41
not sure whose idea it was to start the game really slow and boring, we don't score playing like that, do fans actually like that slow start, I much prefer to move the ball much faster, keeping the other team on the back foot,

08 Oct 2025 18:45:43
Lads, has it come to this looking for a scapegoat to blame for our poor performances?
Arne will sort it out he just has to stop tinkering with the team but i have full confidence in him and the team
a bit of patience is all we need right now lads and girls
YNWA.

07 Oct 2025 14:45:10
2 weeks of pundit social media bashing and criticising Liverpool till the

"Must win" Manchester United game.

07 Oct 2025 15:18:46
It would be unthinkable to lose to Man U in the next game. That would be the ultimate kick in the balls right now.

07 Oct 2025 16:39:13
No game is must win in October no matter how much it might feel like it is or how much the pundits tell you it is.

We will have to tread our own path this season and what will be will be. I think the Jota tragedy has obviously affected the players more than we expected and particularly affected their preseason preparations because they don’t look fit.

Slot is getting pelters for playing players in their wrong positions but I really do believe he’s trying to manage minutes and prevent injuries whilst getting results at the same time.

Once we do get everyone up to speed though we will be frightening. I honestly can’t remember us having a more talented squad than we have right now.

07 Oct 2025 17:10:54
So according to you @Robbo even if we lose to UTD at home “it’s still all right” lol. We are still in the right track and all the players would eventually get up to the speed.

07 Oct 2025 17:28:57
Losing at home to **** is absolutely not alright. Its not Slot out territory but it would start murmurs.

07 Oct 2025 17:34:05
Absolutely Wirtz. Why what would you do if we lose at home to Utd? Give up?

We’d be a possible 4 points behind Arsenal with 30 games to go and I simply can’t see a world where this team doesn’t click and put a run together.

We have 4 players that 3 months ago would’ve been anyone’s shoe in players in a world 11. VVD, Wirtz, Isak and Salah. We are the current champions and have improved the squad dramatically since last season. Now suddenly because we lost a few games they’re all rubbish and the walls are caving in? Please. Get a grip.

07 Oct 2025 18:05:53
It’s not alright at all but it definitely could happen and I’m ready for it if it does.
I remember the 80’s where we’d regularly lose to Man U and then go on to win the league. The opposite was true in the 90’s.

It’s one game in a 38 game season. It’s important but I’d happily lose it every season if we’re the ones competing for and winning honours.

If it happens then I’m ready for it, we have no Devine right to win any game, it has to be earned.

07 Oct 2025 18:11:58
Robbo, 3 months ago Salah wouldn't have been in my World XI 3 months ago. I've said on here, he was lousy the last few months of the season.

If we lose against Utd, I'll be there at the Villa game, but don't kid yourself that everything will be rosy, because it will underline that we're in trouble, especially losing to that lot.

07 Oct 2025 18:21:16
Losing to Utd at home under the circumstances won't be anywhere near a good look. The fans base will be peeved off, for real and the typical backlash would be at defcon 2. However, losing a game is always possible regardless of however you feel about it.

That being said, should we even get a draw, it will still be a huge problem so let's just focus on trying to get the win and play like it. The sense of urgency has to be at a high level.

07 Oct 2025 19:30:57
Just to add, if we did lose that will end the United run of not winning 2 games under Amorim and that guy will get his haircut!

Let's hope the run doesn't end with us!

07 Oct 2025 19:09:08
Said before and will say again, I don't mind losing, so long as we leave it all on the pitch. Attack the box, if they sit deep then get wide and cross it in, put the defence under pressure, play two up top, anything, just mix it up a bit. I agree with Robbo that this squad is perhaps one of the strongest in terms of talent I have ever seen for LFC, but trying to play through the centre all the time isn't always going to work no matter how good your squad is. We saw against Galatasary that you don't need world beating defenders to sit deep, soak up pressure and leave very little central openings even for a top opposition, so get wide and look for the cross or cut back! I don't agree with playing midfielders in defence, but at least it shows Slot is adaptable. This patch is a challenge he has to show he can overcome and I am sure one way or another he will find a solution.

07 Oct 2025 19:13:23
It may not be a literal end of the world if we don't win. In that sense it isn't a "must win". But we really do need to win come on now.

07 Oct 2025 19:43:33
I agree with a lot of what you say Robbo but R77 is also correct IMO. things aren't rosy. it isn't the quality of the playing and coaching staff being doubted but it's the methodology that's an issue and how we're going about resolving it (. like how ED1 describes it yesterday. ) Whatever way you cut it, playing good football and getting the results has to happen soon or else there will be growing discontent throughout. I'm disappointed by their start but, in being honest, I'm also not surprised. I am surprised though by the current tactics or whatever they are, we're all over the shop on the pitch. It'll sort soon I'd say. Too many knowledgeable people there for otherwise.

07 Oct 2025 19:57:03
And when do you expect us to pick up @Robbo? We have blown a 5 point lead over Arsenal and would be 4 behind them if we lose to UTD which would be a 9 point shift and you say “it’s all right”. I am sorry but there is absolutely no POSITIVITY in that stat.

07 Oct 2025 20:05:30
Agree not must wins but to win the league all games are need to wins.

Appreciate you can’t win them all but 3 points in October are still the same worth as 3 points in April at the business end of the season.

You can’t win the league in the first few months but you can certainly be out of the title race in them.

However we’re not as we’re 1 point off the top. Despite it only being a run of 3 defeats for a club of our magnitude that’s almost mini crisis territory.

A good performance and win against Utd and the last 3 results will be a thing of the past. Failure to win will put pressure on the squad as it’ll be 4 games without a win.

Doesn’t sound crazy bad but can’t remember the last time that happened to us.

07 Oct 2025 20:34:32
Blown a 5 point lead 😂 It’s October!

07 Oct 2025 21:21:52
Ok Rome I’ll take Salah out of the world 11 just for you but I’d already forgotten to put Ali in there so it’s still 4 ;-)

Look, I’m just as disappointed as anyone else after our recent run but I just think that people get stuck in a moment in time and get sucked in by all of the negativity the media peddle. It’s always all or nothing. When we sign Wirtz and Isak we are going unbeaten all season, then we lose a couple of games in injury time and everything is wrong, Slot should be sacked and Arsenal will run away with it.

I say stay off social media it messes with your head.

Look at the team, man for man. We are stacked with quality players. I agree that we haven’t been anywhere near our potential so far this season but how long do you think that will continue? Are we just going to keep doing the same thing and lose every game in injury time from now on? Of course not.

This poor run (if you can call losing 2 tough premier league away games in injury time a poor run) could go on for another 2 or 3 games. We could spank Utd 5-0 and it’s all forgotten, that’s the ridiculous knee jerk nature of football fans and especially the media today.

I’m excited about what this squad can achieve and losing a couple of games deep in stoppage time doesn’t change anything for me. This squad is capable of great things and I fully expect it to happen. When it does happen you’ll all be singing their praises and saying how great it is to be a Liverpool fan, YNWA and all that. Until we lose a couple of games again and you want everyone sacked.

Thats football fandom these days but I don’t want any part of it.

07 Oct 2025 21:58:39
Robbo, I was wondering where Alisson was! You are however spot on about knee jerk reactions from some people, and things either being black or white. Despite being a miserable old sod, I am confident given the quality of players we have, we will turn things around. All the best, mate.

07 Oct 2025 23:28:45
Just me but I’m more interested in seeing us take positive steps in our chemistry, play style etc

If we play like we have for the season so far and win, is that good?

Good for the table but don’t think that would change the narrative around the team.

08 Oct 2025 00:55:22
If we play like we have all season and win enough games to win the league then yes Faith that’s a good thing. It means we’ve found a winning formula.

However I think we have too many creative players who will want to be making things happen and enjoying their football for us to be happy playing the way we have been for too long.

I honestly don’t think it’s all through choice it’s been more about necessity after having a shortened preseason due to the mourning period. Which is still going on by the way.

That and players coming back injured, Isak having no preseason etc. etc. Slot has a good record of keeping players available and I think it’s because he doesn’t take stupid risks with fitness. Sending a half baked team out at full throttle early in the season could come back to bite us badly.

Wirtz has struggled and if I’m honest has been very disappointing but it’s so early in his Liverpool career it would be ridiculous to write him off yet. He was thrust into a situation in preseason which must’ve been so difficult for him. He didn’t play with Jota, I’m not even sure if he knew him so to be a new player, in a new team, in a new country then suddenly everyone around you is mourning a colleague it’s got to throw you a bit. He’s only 22 years old we can’t expect miracles from day one given the circumstances. The same goes for Kerkez and Frimpong. These guys have never experienced playing for a club the size of Liverpool before and the media attention and expectation it brings but with the extra attention because of the tragedy in the summer it will take them time to settle.

The performances and results will improve, Wirtz will improve, Macca, Kerkez, Frimpong, Bradley, Isak, Ekitike, Rio will all improve. This is a great squad we just need to stick with it. In the meantime we will win most games anyway because of the quality we have but we can’t turn on everyone if we have a few blips.

08 Oct 2025 03:36:12
I don't actually think wirtz has been that bad, sure he hasn't been the transcendent talent we saw at Bayer, but that entire system was built around him and with players he had developed a telepathic understanding with over time. He is still very much that player, he's going to be world class for us, you can see flashes of it already even with all the mitigating factors he's had to deal with.

08 Oct 2025 03:51:48
Robbos - that's a different question tho to what we're talking about.

08 Oct 2025 05:18:42
So if we lose to UTD in two weeks time it also means Slot hasn’t learned a lesson @Robbo? Why don’t think he would learn in November or December for that matter? It’s hilarious that you are setting a decent example of celebrating while losing! This UTD team has worse defense and midfield than ours!

08 Oct 2025 07:11:32
We blew a three point lead in August after we beat Bournemouth on a Friday night.

08 Oct 2025 08:09:16
"us" and "we". You're fooling nobody pal. Not one true Liverpool fan would create an account called 'Wirtz 007'. You're a pathetic troll. Go back to the Man United/ Arsenal page.

08 Oct 2025 08:52:49
Tbh, at this point, I want Liverpool to win just so that Harry would crawl back under the rock that he came from ;)

In all honesty though, we are on a wretched run of 3 losses on the bounce now and the Utd game coming up is going to be tough. In any normal circumstance, I wouldn't be surprised if we lost to them but now, it is important for us to win, not only for bragging rights but to also "fix" our form. I wouldn't call it a disaster since it's still early in the season and there's still plenty of time to turn things around but losing four on the bounce is going to be much harder to recover from.

08 Oct 2025 09:04:38
No Wirtz if we lose to Utd it means we lose to Utd and we move on to the next game. You’re talking like I’ve said I’d love us to lose against Utd or something. I’m just saying it’s not must win and all is not lost if we did lose. Although I don’t think we will anyway.

If we lose 3-0 to Utd and then lose the next 3 games on the spin too then we can start to talk about a crisis.

You can always lose isolated games it could be a red card or a poor decision or just a poor performance. It doesn’t spell disaster, especially this early in the season.

08 Oct 2025 09:14:43
I agree that it’s not the end of the world losing a 5 point lead in October but I reckon if Arsenal had done the exact same my money is on some LFC posters saying they’d blown a 5 point lead and Arteta would be getting pelters.

08 Oct 2025 09:40:54
I think from the point of view that losing 4 games on the bounce is not good, then United becomes at least a game we must not lose, if only to stop it becoming a 5 game losing streak. If winning becomes a habit, then so does losing. I’d ask at what point people think it does become an issue, 4 games? 5 games? 10 games? Like JK said, although titles aren’t won in September and October, you can end up out of a title race during the October/ November period, as we have experienced on many occasions. So three points and a clean sheet feels like stabilisation at this point.

08 Oct 2025 09:48:49
The last time we lost three games in a row was the season we came fifth and klopp loaned Arthur Melo after finally realising that our midfield was in serious trouble, city destroyed us 4-1 at the etihad, klopp said we were lucky it was only four and we were crushed by real a few days before at the bernabeu I think. That period was a hundred times grimmer than our situation now.

08 Oct 2025 13:13:06
Wirtz 007 - sad excuse of a troll not a Liverpool fan, no fan would make that account.

08 Oct 2025 14:19:29
Logically a lot that has been said in this thread makes sense, but losing to this united team at anfield would be pretty unacceptable, they are a poor team. That being said, as soft as they are I'm pretty sure they lead the premier league in xG.

08 Oct 2025 14:56:51
Sounds like there are reds who have no confidence in our team and manager "if we get beat by man utd" all ifs and buts.
As our former manager Jurgen Klopp told us all to believe and look what happened .

BELIEVE REDS BELIEVE YNWA.

08 Oct 2025 18:08:34
slot needs to sort out his defence, we have 3 out of 4 defenders who are going thru a rough patch, we are conceding goals nearly every game, stop them goals, and we will get back on track,

07 Oct 2025 14:32:43
After the Gakpo goal against Chelsea the team played with the intensity we love to watch. High pressing and high tempo passing when in possession. Sadly it only lasted about ten minutes. I don't like these slow first half in particular as we seem to always then need to chase the game in the second half which adds extra pressure and creates mistakes.

07 Oct 2025 18:23:32
Then maybe we should go back to actually pressing from the off effectively like we did last season rather do all that in the second half down a goal and then, after we score? Nothing as the same thing happened at Palace in the second half.

07 Oct 2025 19:13:03
Personally I have found Slots teams have always tended to play slower first half and ramp up as the game goes on. I actually thought it was a genuine tactic I saw it so much last year. Worked well (obviously) when you do manage to get a goal up and then swamp the opposition later in the game when they are tired from chasing the ball all game.
Doesn't seem to be working this year though through a combination of poor possession play, lack of creativity, playing almost entirely centrally, lacking the switching passes that we have lost now Trent has gone, and being leaky as hell at the back. So yeah, I agree, if it's not working anymore, change it up!

08 Oct 2025 09:39:25
On the other hand Westwood666, we all saw games where Slot went full Klopp and played with intensity, high tempo and high press from start to finish. Just check out the RM and City games at home. We suffocated both teams. This tells me that Slot knew when to go full Klopp ball and whent to dial it down which is damn smart of him.


Now it seems he is trying to cut back on that this early to save energy (along with rotating the players) BUT it's not working when you are poor in possession, can't progress the ball and you are restricting your FB's from overlapping, leaving them isolated. And if you are in poor form and playing players out of position hence, you don't have a settled 11.

So how about we get a settled team, go full court press, try to get a goal and then rest on the ball. And if we don't get the goal, we still relax and then we press at the right trigger and go again. That could be a solution, no?

08 Oct 2025 12:58:58
OliRed, didn't we go two up against Bournemouth and Newcastle only to get pegged back to two all?