Liverpool Banter Archive August 11 2017

11 Aug 2017 23:14:35
With all the Coutinho drama, not sure if it was mentioned that Klopp has selected Migs as 1, Karius at 2 and Ward at 3.
He mentioned something about it not being this way forever, but that's how he is going into the season.

Also seems to have softened his approach regarding Coutinho, now claiming it is just because the timing is off. Appears to be a little bit of bridge building, suggesting we will keep him and have to hope he plays well for us. Basically, i don't want to stand in your way, but Barcelona haven't given us any time to sort out your replacement, it's their fault not ours etc. A little remedial, but I guess that's all that's left.

Peace.

11 Aug 2017 23:35:53
I read somewhere Klopp likes Gomes. Wouldn't be surprised if h was included.

12 Aug 2017 02:00:17
If Klopp likes Gomes, then he should not be manager. Replacing Coutinho with a bange average player who will also take game time of Can and make him leave at the end of the season. Recipe for disaster imo. We need warriors, battlers who will not shirk during tough games and Gomes is anything but that.

11 Aug 2017 23:05:09
Given that Liverpool have publicly stated that Coutinho is going nowhere in this window, and RBL have said the same about their man with no name, what are the chances of both deals going through in the January window?
The same moght apply to VVD.
The players get their moves, and the management teams don’t lose face.
Just a thought.

12 Aug 2017 00:11:46
I think there is no need to keep a player who doesn't want to be here.

11 Aug 2017 22:54:10
Just seven months ago, Philippe Coutinho committed his future to Liverpool until 2022 and enthused: "I signed this contract to stay here for a few more years because it's a great honour for me.
"It gives me great happiness because I was welcomed here with open arms by everyone at the club and the supporters right from my first day. I am very thankful to this football club for everything. "


What he forgot to add, though, was: "However, I'll be off in the summer if Barcelona will have me. "

vrcomp
Y. N. W. A.

11 Aug 2017 22:58:10
Typical footballer BS. Most are full of it.

11 Aug 2017 23:11:05
Exactly Irish, always disregard anything managers or players say about their futures 🤝.

11 Aug 2017 23:31:39
At today's press conference, Klopp mentioned "I have a long term contract and hopefully I will fulfill it". Funny how you can be adamant others fulfill theirs while you're not fully sure about your own.

12 Aug 2017 00:12:20
Sell him. We definitely don't want this affecting the group.

11 Aug 2017 22:42:22
If Couts go would there be any chance of us going for Deli Ali do you think?

{Ed002's Note - None.}

11 Aug 2017 23:09:18
Ah well sounded good in my mind, cheers Ed.

11 Aug 2017 23:42:12
I know a Deli Ali deal wouldn't happen because LFC have shown no interest, but I'm just guessing that Couts is on 3 times the wages he is, plus LFC would have a few quid in the bank if Couts left and the lad is an LFC boy hood fan. Has all the attributes to strike a deal, just need Klippery to somehow get Deli Ali's mobile number.

11 Aug 2017 22:25:03
Sorry sent last post b4 finished
This so called family member that passing sly this so called info. I bet you that no sniff of this after the win against boro last game of the season what evident then?
So what will happen if he stays? Barcelona won't come back next summer so what. Because I think he might have tarnished his rep and don't think he will stay at us. So psg maybe option next summer IF HE STAYS THIS SUMMER.

{Ed002's Note - This is simply business as usual in respect of transfers - why try and make a special case out of it because it is a Liverpool player?}

11 Aug 2017 20:26:20
Just for a change Ed025 what was BR's weakness and strengths when he was in charge of Liverpool?

{Ed025's Note - i cant think of any strengths barry, his weaknesses were blaming everybody else when things went wrong, keeping his todger in his trousers and using too much bleach on his teeth..

11 Aug 2017 23:07:38
Too much bleach on his teeth😂😂.

11 Aug 2017 23:04:59
He showed great character in doing so though ed025. A wonderful human being.

{Ed025's Note - a true legend errol..

11 Aug 2017 23:16:15
Ed25, I couldn't care less what he did with his trousers or his teeth whitening. He was employed as a football manager, and as such he should have been judged on that alone. Is it any wonder fans come on here with derogatory posts when one of the eds make crass comments like that.

{Ed025's Note - get a life..

11 Aug 2017 23:36:07
3 out of 3 Ed.

11 Aug 2017 22:24:03
So coutinho isn't happy with his role and with klopp, any idea what there on about? Why would he sign a new deal last season?

{Ed002's Note - Ignore the contract - he wants to move on.}

11 Aug 2017 22:38:25
Probably the same reason vvd signed his.

11 Aug 2017 22:16:33
I have to say I'm nothing short of disgusted. 9th in the league. Disgraceful. Klopp out.

11 Aug 2017 22:46:51
You're donkey.

11 Aug 2017 23:12:57
3 points off the top with a game in hand 😎.

11 Aug 2017 22:04:49
I'd love us to sign Jamie Vardy, I know we've got 17 strikers but he just fits the mound so well. Direct, pace and more fight about him than our whole squad put together.

11 Aug 2017 22:33:04
Haven't even played a game this season yet out squad is 'lacking fight'. Are you serious?

11 Aug 2017 21:58:56
Where do we go from here?
Panic buying?, plan 'b'? Or stick with what we've got.
With Couts all but gone, lallana injured, Hendo still injured, studge still injured were down to bare bones again.
Hope the boys can pull out a result tomorrow and put some positivity back into the club.

11 Aug 2017 22:12:36
Bare bones? Hardly!

11 Aug 2017 21:41:33
Liverpool are up to 9th in the table as it stands with the result toady can't be bad .

11 Aug 2017 21:58:08
I want top four .

11 Aug 2017 21:36:52
eds/ reds

WTF!

something is very wrong for us this T/ F window.

i bet sly sports are having a field day i mean seriously what is going on. all this should have been done behind closed doors, they should have told pipco what was said in presser before hand so he was prepared for it, but at the same time young pipco has hurt us fans seriously i feel absolutely gutted. we all know he wants Barcelona but i thought he was better than this. but i am more pissed at the club and klopp utter shambles we are a laughing stock right now sorry to say!

if Barcelona want him they must pay big we need a replacement for him so we need £100m plus iniesta od they can jog on look how late in the window it is absolute joke so that's the deal take it or go suck a lemon (im sure they grow in spain)

also we as a club seriously need to have a look at ourselvs. i genuinly have love and respect for FSG fir saving us but they have no ambition, i know how much they fund us but we have suspect management we have a clown for a manager i forget which ex said it but u sre right.

11 Aug 2017 21:58:41
^^bizarre post and exactly why i visit this site.

11 Aug 2017 22:02:00
How can people slate the club or manager? Except form how we handled the VVD move they've done nothing wrong, we all had faith in Coutinho and HE acted out in the sense that he and his family who were happy to take the clubs money, started talking to the press about BS like unhappiness with klopp etc I would have wished him alll the luck in the world as he's been a great servant to the club but today was handless very poorly by him or his associates.

11 Aug 2017 22:11:55
No not Iniesta there's so many younger players we could buy with say 135 million. We could even buy more than one with that kind of money. Iniesta could adjust to not just the prem but our high energy play.



For me if we get in region of 135 we'd be better investing in players like

Kovacic, Reus, Dolberg, Illaramendi, Coric, Meyer, we could sign of these and have change. Or even two or three of them greatly improving the squad.

Off the tôp of my head

My initial thought is keep him for a season but we don't know what's happening behind closed doors and how he's acting so the club can only make that decision not us, but what I would say is make them pay at least 130 for him.

We won't be able to sign anyone thi swindow as the prices will be stupid due to clubs trying to claw as much of the fee of us they can. January would give us time to arrange a deal.

11 Aug 2017 22:28:35
Meyer isn't that good.

11 Aug 2017 21:23:34
As long as transfer fees exist' which they shouldn't, it is imperative for any football club which has to operate as a business (rather than one bankrolled by oil money) to get the maximum amount from players they sell. The difficulty here is that PC would see £90m and think that is 9 times what I cost, so they should let me go. But in the current market you have to spend almost that much on a flat track bully like Lukaku. I am sure FSG would let him have the move of his dreams - if Barcelona offered the right fee for the current market. By the by, he will be missed but he is neither (yet) our best midfielder or the driving force of this team. He never puts in a bad performance, but he does often struggle to dominate against the bigger teams. I suspect his game is better suited to Spain.

11 Aug 2017 21:03:24
am reading reports tonight from this so called family member ( (coutinhos agent) ) i bet that coutinho an klopp have hardly spoken for 6 months. suprising how all this info is leaking out all of a sudden. bit fed up with it all no one's talking about the game tmoz. if coutinho thinks he's bigger than the club he's sadly mistaken. time to get what we can and move on. hey eds if coutinho played on Tues in qualifier would he be cup tied if he did join Barcelona? cheers.

{Ed002's Note - No.}

11 Aug 2017 21:13:22
I question the accuracy of the info personally.

Sounds his people prepping an excuse for his departure to sell the fans even though I think we're all man enough to accept: "look, I like it here, but I can't stay at a club that's about to start only its second season in the CL in 7 years when Barcelona are knocking. I only get one career. "

11 Aug 2017 22:05:52
What's most surprising is I've seen Coutinho and klopp almost duck each other's members over the past 6 months yet they hate each other, everyone needs to be more honest. I am happy for him to leave but we don't have to let him go, we should state a number if Barcelona want him and are willing to meet it, good bye couts, if not goodbye Barca. 135-150 mill.

11 Aug 2017 20:55:08
Is it correct that Barcelona can only afford to buy either Coutinho or Dembele not both? If that's the case upsetting 2 different clubs for their players when they only will purchase one is poor behavior. What happens to the player they don't take, that has to remain at the club after all the disruption caused.

Thanks in advance.

{Ed002's Note - No that is not true. Barcelona has players it is moving on as well.}

11 Aug 2017 20:11:49
How about taking a Torres/ Carrol twist? Drain Barcelona for let's say £125 mill, then make bids of £80 mill each for Keita and VVD? Would that make our team weaker or stronger on the field?
I guess its only a dreamthought, and would be hard to produce.

11 Aug 2017 20:25:46
Both don't want to sell but if we cave on couts who is to say they won't either? Either way it's dirty all around and no matter what happens or doesn't this does not bode well for the upcoming season.

11 Aug 2017 20:25:46
Both don't want to sell but if we cave on couts who is to say they won't either? Either way it's dirty all around and no matter what happens or doesn't this does not bode well for the upcoming season.

11 Aug 2017 20:40:02
If we sell Coutinho for 125 mill then I bet VVD and Kieta's selling price would also become 125 mill apiece.

11 Aug 2017 20:42:10
Isnt it all about money these days? Those clubs would also have their braking points.

11 Aug 2017 20:42:42
I disagree. It's not ideal. But because we can't get Kieta or VVD (seemingly) why let Phil go? Then what's he going to do? Sulk and not play in a World Cup year? More likely he'll play out of his skin so he can get his move next season and we've got 12 months not 3 weeks to sort out a proper replacement. On replacements Roberto can play that deeper role, so a quality front man is needed.

11 Aug 2017 21:01:51
I would agree with you Fab, that's IF Coutinho could master all this turbulence. I fear he's about to burn his KOP- bridges. Im not shure if Coutinho is that strong mentally.

Roberto is the one left I fear most if Coutinho leaves. Those two has got a special understanding on the pitch. Pipco gone can effect Roberto negativly.

11 Aug 2017 21:04:51
I agree no sale. Keep him for the season, he needs to play so won't play up. We continue pursuit of Keita and Van Dijk. If we get both great, if we only get one fair enough and if we don't get any then play waiting game.

We start looking for replacements for Coutinho through this season and maybe even agree a deal.

11 Aug 2017 22:13:44
Suarez did much worse, and yet FSG stuck to their guns, and didn't sell to Arsenal. So I think they'll do the same here and Coutinho will still be here by the end of the window. And if he's smart he'll realize he has more to lose by under-performing or not training well. He simply needs to put his head down and get on with it. If he's lucky he could get his move in January. And then there's the World Cup. I don't give any weight to Barca's posture of "now or never". They waited 2 or 3 years to get Dani Alves. A similar time for Arda Turan, too. So if they want him they'll be back.

What boggles the mind is that the LFC back office has still not got it's act together. Ed002 has stated that prices for the player have been given. Did anyone check with Klopp if that was okay and if he agreed with the intention? If they asked and he said no, then they should have listened and avoided this frosty situation between player and manager (Klopp is not going to look at Coutinho the same way again) . If they asked and he said okay because he had a replacement in mind, then Klopp should have made sure he got his man in. You can't blame the un-anticipated Neymar and Keita situations or bad luck. This is what real man management is all about. Not just hugs on the field. (I fully support Jurgen Klopp by the way and don't hold him fully responsible. I do hold the owners responsible though for not putting into place a clear management structure with a DOF with years of experience, at the top. I read about people shuttling in an out of the LFC office every 2-3 years, and it's always the same mistakes and the same egg on the face in the media and with the fans) .

11 Aug 2017 20:05:06
Plan A would be we don't want to sell and we don't have to. sell and we can play hardball and refuse to let Pipco go.

Come September he will accept position and knuckle down to it.

Plan B would be to get replacement from RBL in and then sell Pipco

Plan C Would be to take Iniesta and cash.

Let The powers that be sort it out.

My choice would be to play it smart and gett both plan B and plan C

Iniesta is my favourite non Liverpool player and if he would come it would be awesome. But to ring in RBL player as well would be the best transfer window we have had.

11 Aug 2017 20:13:01
Take Iniesta, the player Barcelona want Coutinho to replace? How do you think 33y/ o Iniesta would adjust to the Premier League?

11 Aug 2017 20:16:46
Iniesta could play in EPL when he is 40.he is technically on a different planet to most EPL players.

11 Aug 2017 20:30:27
Lucky, he'd have the stuffing kicked out of him.

11 Aug 2017 20:30:27
Lucky, he'd have the stuffing kicked out of him.

11 Aug 2017 20:34:08
it would prob take him a season to adjust, but he would still be only 34 yrs old .

11 Aug 2017 20:44:16
This is right up there on the nonsense scale!

11 Aug 2017 20:54:19
I was being a bit sarcastic, look, get as much money out of Barcelona that we can, then buy in two maybe three great players, and away we go again .

11 Aug 2017 21:27:03
I believe Pipco will leave. My fantasy replacement would be Kroos. I think Draxler should be considered esp. with the Neymar signing.
However, I wish the owners would refuse to sell. Pipco would readjust by September when he realises that it's a world cup year.

11 Aug 2017 19:48:54
Away from all this Coutinho talk, have you and #WonderDogSparky decided on the team for tomorrow's game at Watford yet Ed002?

{Ed002's Note - Everyone will run very quickly after the Watford player with the ball.}

11 Aug 2017 20:40:29
we will need every point this season, I have just today lost that bit of excitement that I had, hope that I can get it back .

11 Aug 2017 19:37:27
What is annoying me is not that he wants out for Barca. I'm not deluded enough to see the attraction. But to come out with the crap about klopp. Come on phil the hugs, the high fives etc.

He talk about his love for the fans and then hands in a transfer request on the eve of the season when we are suppose to be excited.

He has known klopp stance since beginning of window as he has been clear he doest want to sell.

Lfc rep has been blasted on this site all site. well look at Barca. 2 players they have targeted in last week. dembele and couts. they purposely encourage the players to force moves through. dembele is on strike at Dortmund and couts does this. Barcelona always do it. anyone remember mascharano.

If couts wants to go this summer he should have been a man and put a request in at the beginning of the summer. instead he has been to concerned about his image and now leaving us 3 weeks to find the solution.

My view is tell Barcelona 130million and he's yours and test how much Monaco want to keep mbappe or even better how much Madrid want to keep assensio.

11 Aug 2017 20:00:21
I am with you Red, also tell Barcelona, that its now or never, pay up or go away .

11 Aug 2017 20:00:35
I completely get your comment, 100%
But isn't the situation we're in now called Karma.
Look at VVD, hasn't trained or gone on SFC pre season tour.
Keita. Getting into trouble with his boss, kicking someone in training (I know that probably isn't why he kicked his team mate, it in light of everything, it's a bit fishy)
We really can't get mad at what Couts is doing and applaud what VVD and Keita is doing.
The main reason as to why I don't care if Couts goes is because he wants to.
If Liverpool were forcing him out then fair enough, but the guy actually wants to leave.

I hate this mantality that certain fans have, it's OK for saints and other clubs players to hand in TR or miss training, but as soon as an LFC player does it.
All hell is broke lose.

I'm looking forward to the game, I'm looking forward to us competing,
I support the badge nothing more.
Players come and go and in this day and age, it certainly isn't for long.

11 Aug 2017 20:07:47
Jesus Christ!

We. have. all. known. for. years!

Take note in how the Utd fans dealt with Ronaldo. They knew, and just accepted it.

11 Aug 2017 20:16:27
They knew but he gave them another year, played out of his skin and they won the Champions League.

This isn't at all the same situation and as always, it's all smoke and mirrors from both sides.

I'm so fed up of this transfer window.

11 Aug 2017 20:31:03
kopette difference is VVD had supposedly told Southhampton for 6 months. Keita was in retaliation to a tackle he copped during the same session and couts well why not let it be known a month ago? i say f*ck em. look for our own replacement and let him go in january.

11 Aug 2017 20:36:06
And I think most rounded would accept him wanting to leave and wish him well. But to me his timing stinks. He has been far to worried about his image. I don't expect loyalty, I expect honesty. and unfortunately I think couts has let us down here.
Like I said not for leaving but for the timing. He should have come out at the start of the summer and said I want to go. he has been courting the interest for a year.

11 Aug 2017 21:23:58
Linnerz,
Continho was pushing a move to Barcelona last year.
What makes that any difference. If you ask me, it's worse.

11 Aug 2017 21:27:02
Completely agree Redphil. the only thing pissing me off, is the timing. I'm pissed at the timing, but also we knew his desires to play for Barcelona, are we silly to think he'll stay quitly or should we of offered him to Barcelona and got our targets in properly¿

At the end of the day, LFC knew about Couts desire to leave.
we should of done everything occordanly to the the book.
We wouldn't be in this mess.
The whole clubs to blame.

11 Aug 2017 22:56:52
why is he now only handing in a Transfer Request?

11 Aug 2017 19:28:30
Everyone going crazy and saying now he's handed a transfer request his behaviour is despicable etc etc yet in the same breath saying use the money for Keita and VVD who, as far as I'm aware, have acted exactly the same, all three players have been deemed not for sale at any price, all three players with either transfer requests or comments they have made have attempted to engineer a move anyway, this is football. It's not a new concept it happens to all clubs, and has done for many many years, we do not have the luxury of knowing exactly what is happening behind closed doors so I for one am not going to get antsy about it and declare the season a write off as none of us truly know what will actually happen over the next few weeks. I'm looking forward to the kick off whistle tomorrow afternoon and shout at the TV until I'm hoarse as I have done every year for the last 33 years, through a multitude of different players and hope I'm smiling come the final whistle. Life goes on, players come and go, LFC is forever. YNWA.

{Ed025's Note - good post that welsh..

11 Aug 2017 19:45:42
Spot on Welsh. Feel the league will be really open this year and by Christmas this transfer window will be a faint memory. Love it.

11 Aug 2017 20:06:30
good call welsh, if only we had a side good enough to win the league, if couts goes and we don't buy, then we won't make top four . but hey, I will still be shouting for them .

11 Aug 2017 20:26:01
Spot on Welsh. I say we let him go and say thanks for playing a big part in bringing us back to the stature of a club that VVD and Keita may want to play for.

11 Aug 2017 20:26:01
Spot on Welsh. I say we let him go and say thanks for playing a big part in bringing us back to the stature of a club that VVD and Keita may want to play for.

11 Aug 2017 20:32:49
Only problem i have is with the timing. this all could've been done months ago like our first attempts for VVD and Keita.

11 Aug 2017 20:39:24
Totally agree. But lfc got insanely slated for their actions. are Barca.
Kinda respect saints and rbl stance. and a part of me says in a world cup year we should do the same.
And then sell to anyone but Barcelona (I'm aware of the irony) like saints fans think of us. I'm tired of Barcelona unsettling our top players. masch, Suarez and now coutinho.

11 Aug 2017 20:50:45
HAHA i just realized we both said the same thing on different posts.
The more i think about it the more I'm thinking tough rubbish (for couts and barca) unless we pull out some worldy signing and then i won't think of him again.

11 Aug 2017 18:53:36
Just wondering eds as I've never heard of Diego laxalt if the eds think he is a good player? Also is he similar to pip or a different kind of player meaning firmhino may drop into pip's position if he leaves?

{Ed002's Note - He is very left footed and he is very much a traditional left midfield player but used to play more often as an attacking midfiled player.}

11 Aug 2017 20:03:20
Ed002 can I ask if Diego is your preference/ recommendation of replacement or if the club is interested in the player?

Thanks for the Sharkopod may be the way forward to save you time was interesting to hear about the other clubs too.

{Ed002's Note - The club have watched the player.}

11 Aug 2017 20:17:21
Thanks ed.

11 Aug 2017 20:17:21
Thanks ed.

11 Aug 2017 18:57:47
From saying he won't put in a transfer request to saying his role in the team (which has made Barcelona come knocking) has created a rift between him and Klopp.
This is the desperation of a man who is doing what he can to complete a move in which he tapped himself up for over a year, knowing that Barcelona would look to other targets and his opportunity would be gone if he doesn't move.
I would say that the ball is in our court this season though, World Cup year means he can't just sulk on the sidelines.

I would take the money and get VVD over the line, and as much as so many of you don't rate him I would take Mahrez. He's proven in the premier leaugue, and was voted PFA player of the year, meaning all his fellow professionals thought he was awesome too.

11 Aug 2017 19:52:03
All due respect to klopp I hope he does the same thing and handle it the same way he has with sacko sorry if his name spelt wrong think it's right every player should. E treated with same condition.

11 Aug 2017 19:52:20
Anfield Andy, Mahrez has had 1 good year out of 4 at Leicester. That's not reason enough to lash out £50m.

11 Aug 2017 21:05:39
And yet he won African player of the year on the year he didn't win the league. Don't know who you were watching.
Yes he was poor for a while when the team rebelled against Ranieri, but since Shakespeare took over he has been brilliant again.

11 Aug 2017 18:51:27
got to get him out now tell them what we want and don't back down on price.
don't want to hear how he loves the club he is just a player that has no feelings for the club. but I don't hold that against players. if its not your club you will not feel what fans feel for the clubs. and when teams are finished with them they don't care to much about them unless they can get something more out of them. but club needs to move fast now wasted a lot of time this window.

11 Aug 2017 18:48:08
Hi Eds

Once again the club is in a mess in the transfer window. If we're not playing dirty tactics with other teams players we're having trouble with our own. Don't get me wrong, I love our club and maybe a year or two ago I'd be fuming at all this drama but after the VVD and Keita saga's I find it hard to sympathies with the people running the club. This really should of been a summer to kick on from what was an overall good season last year but like the season we just missed out on the title a few years back poor decisions have been made. I don't blame any one person as I think there has been mistakes from the owners, senior management, Klopp's and players at times. This needs to be put to bed now though, if Coutinho is going to kick up a fuss we need to work hard to find the best replacement we can before we allow him to leave, also to try and prevent ourselves getting into another Andy Carroll situation. We need to also once and for all either forget about VVD, or try and build some bridges with Southampton and get it over the line or just move on and get somebody else in. Kieta should be forgotten until next seasons release clause comes into play. I'm just sick of us being in the news for negative reasons, tapping up, players unrest, horrendous WU on shirt sleeves, I'm desperate to see some positive news from the club in the next week or so starting with 3 points at Watford.

11 Aug 2017 19:28:22
I really really don't want Couts to go, but I don't want an unhappy player in the team, Barcelona, once again think they can buy whoever they want,
tell them the price is 125 million, and then don't come back until you have that cheque in your hand, the full amount, we should hold all the aces .

11 Aug 2017 19:11:39
Hey I'm new sorry if this question isn't quality, but what is the price at which we would be comfortable with him leaving? Is 130 mil € asking too much? Also as far as a replacement goes is there enough time left in the window to make a move of that maginitude happen?

Thanks Yall.

11 Aug 2017 19:36:44
Too much? Not enough! We don't need to sell, money doesn't mean much in this window apparently and they're sitting on 200 million. I'd say 150 million and you can go, wouldn't mind 50 being paid over a few years but the bulk upfront. Otherwise it's a no go. Would LOVE if they never got anybody in watch messi and Suarez push for moves away too take down one club at a time form the Spanish league. Would equally love if he went and we knocked them out the CL and went on to win it, if he leaves I'm putting money on that (I don't like my money obviously)

11 Aug 2017 19:06:10
Countinho is great but hardly irreplaceable. And for 100+ million we can get 2-3 world class players. Plus, sorting our defense should take priority. If we keep coutinho and don't strengthen the defense, 4th will be difficult. If we sell coutinho and strengthen our defense 4th is definitely achievable and probably much higher. Point is, without coutinho, we still have a midfield/ attack of Henderson, can behind mane, firminio and Salah with Sturridge/ solanke/ origi up top. Plus we have ings, lallana and wijnaldum that don't even make that team and hopefully grujic and some. youth that have break through seasons. Point is, even if we lose coutinho, we'll be fine and possibly better off! Love the lad but sometimes you have to be practical!

11 Aug 2017 19:18:00
Yes but the big question is how much of what ever fee we get for him will be handed back to klopp or hate too say Rafa.

{Ed002's Note - That isn't how it works and one of the reasons we don't discuss money.}

11 Aug 2017 19:38:41
How much would Diego costa cost and what would people's thoughts on him be? Clearly talented a bit crazy (we seem to love hat here) hard working, proven goal scorer. With say 125 million we could try for VVD mahrez (or keita) and Diego costa only having to add a little bit ourselves and in reality all costs could be covers selling sakho and markovic on the cheap.

11 Aug 2017 18:41:48
I think Coutinho has let down all of his teammates and the fans handing in a transfer request the day before our first game and two key champions league qualifiers.

whatever the reason that is not acceptable.

It's simple - if we can sign Keita or someone of near equal quality then take the biggest amount you can get out of Barcelona (a minimum £120m I'd suggest) or he stays.

End of!

11 Aug 2017 19:06:57
This family member that's been talking to sky is now saying has been unhappy with things klopp has done. He's not happy with his position in the team. Just sell get him gone,

11 Aug 2017 18:56:09
Your spot on 1jj admit I'm gutted but we after move on vvd and ketia would be amazing but don't think we will get vvd and they ain't selling keita this season 1jj so mr ragnick as come out and said I no wat macca as said in his post but it carnt happen can it.

11 Aug 2017 19:16:12
As it says though, its a request!

He has politely 'requested' that he be allowed to join one of the best clubs on the planet with boss wages.

As for the timing, blame Barcelona for that, not the player.

11 Aug 2017 18:28:54
So then lads I do predict that we will find a resolution to this conflict.

Barca, Coutinho, Klopo too, working together we'll get the job done.

Barcelona, can you purchase him, Barcelona, yes you can!

No, no, just kidding, a little riff on the classic theme tune to the kids show Bob the Builder, god speaking of which how longs it been since I was on a building site, depressing, one more post then night night forever. In all seriousness I am deeply depressed and will end it all soon but that's neither here nor there. Also in all seriousness, other than the theme tune, Barcelona certainly will purchase the Brazilian superstar.

11 Aug 2017 18:44:03
Funny thing is I could tell this was from Zoom once I got to Bob the Builder 😂.

11 Aug 2017 19:12:34
I think he perfectly summed up how we all feel.

11 Aug 2017 19:16:13
Ah yes, because I am the pop culture king, put me back into the ring and I'll give all your heads a spin. Spinning more than that top at the end of that Christopher Nolan classic Inception, sorry or was it Memento, seem to be forgetting everything, probably will turn out that it was me who killed her in the end. Sorry that wasa bit of a spoiler, a bit like my identity being that of the zolomon boy jay garrick.

11 Aug 2017 18:22:53
Sky saying his family member has said he and klopp have a problem. And it's been building for the last six months? The guy needs to be sold!

11 Aug 2017 18:38:44
As an amazing judge of character with gypsy blood through my veins and a ten bob a week blackpool prom tea leaf reading shack on the front, my spiritual powers tell me that the problem is simply that of the manager wanting him to stay and the player wanting to leave.

There, sorted.

11 Aug 2017 18:38:56
If things like that are true 110 mill an off ya go matey.

11 Aug 2017 18:44:37
What, his family member? Not sure that's legal.

11 Aug 2017 18:21:26
Now this Coutinho "family member" is saying to Sly sports his relationship with Klopp has been degrading over the last 6 months and frustrated with his position in the team.

Doing all they can to get the move now. Dirty tricks have started.

Just get rid, take the £100,000,000 plus and buy someone who isn't South American.

11 Aug 2017 18:33:48
Agree on the South American part. I hope firmino stays but from now on I wouldn't trust South Americans. If they want to go to Spain they can go to a top 5 team in spain and try get to Barcelona that way.

11 Aug 2017 19:08:52
Yeah, not like a South American would ever become a longest serving player is it?

11 Aug 2017 18:30:48
Eds, now that all the acquisitions have begun. What or who do you think is the problem here?
The club, the manager or the player.
Why can't there be an amicable solution?
Why do all the transfers come down to handling the transfer request and dirty acquisitions?

{Ed002's Note - (a) No one is at fault, it is simply a transfer. Like when Liverpool purchased Robertson, or Everton purchased Klaasen. (b) Because the club are adament that they don't want to sell. Many clubs will let players move on if they are not happy - Liverpool are not one of those clubs. (c) Only a few transfers come down to transfer requests being made.}

11 Aug 2017 19:42:58
South Americans tend to be better! Let's only buy Nepalese them Gurkhas are awfully loyal to the crown! SIlly comment, we need to prove ourselves a better squad on a regular basis to keep or best players, in reality if you're of Coutinhos ability are you happy playing with morenos? Klavans? No you want Suarez etc, until will become a regular trophy collecting team we won't keep our best players it's simple.

{Ed025's Note - fair point fred..

11 Aug 2017 18:10:23
Your move FSG
I think FSG and Klopp expected this move from PC

They were simply saving face with their comments about him not being sold

Unfortunate that it has come to this

Club vs Manager vs Player

Let's see who will back down.

11 Aug 2017 19:07:47
FSG and Klopp will back down and I think they will very quickly as we will need a replacement. They've known this was going to happen that's y they've been coming out saying their statements. I can't believe the way football is going, players sign 5 year contracts saying they would never play for this club cause I've played for the rivals. Load of bulls**t.

11 Aug 2017 17:58:40
H edsi hope you are keeping sane after all the events of today. in light of today's news will we see a lot more activity from Liverpool or have we left it too late in the window. thanks as always.

{Ed002's Note - There will be some.}

11 Aug 2017 17:52:01
Can I ask the eds about the timing if coutinho transfer request and fsg statement this morning?
Seems strange that fsg issued a statement that not for sale then the tr is submitted, do you think the owners and klopp knew it was coming so they got in there first and said not for sale so they save face a bit and make coutinho look like the bad guy? I'm just trying to get my head around it all, ed002 said we gave psg and Barcelona a price for coutinho so that means are open to a sale so why say "not for sale" publicly when clearly they are.

{Ed002's Note - I doubt that they knew it was coming.}

11 Aug 2017 18:28:50
Cheers.

11 Aug 2017 19:11:01
I knew it was coming, these owners must be a bit dim.

11 Aug 2017 16:29:00
Eds, with the influx of money we would receive from Phils depature, will other targets become available that prehaps were not followed up on in the same way Keita, Van Dijk was? Basically will the new money open us up to previous targets or "interest" in players we believed were out of our grasp? Cheers.

{Ed002's Note - You would need to specifically say which players you mean. Klopp will have particular players in mind that suit the way Liverpool play - and it is those he would look to.}

11 Aug 2017 18:38:45
Players that Klopp liked, but were out of our price range. I know I sound really vague ed002 but what I mean to say is will the likes of the Thomas Mullers (poor example) or other previously unthinkable targets now become viable due to the increased funds if Coutinho leaves? I hope you can understand what I'm trying to imply - will klopp return to previous out of range targets? Many thanks.

{Ed002's Note - I honestly don't know which players you are referring to. There were two players he looked at last year who were not available because Klopp tapped them up and Liverpool were warned in both cases. There is potentially Brandt who might be more open to a move now that Coutinho could be leaving - but Salah has already arrived.}

11 Aug 2017 17:55:47
i am very interested how liverpool are going to handle coutinho. Southampton and rb leipzig have dug there heals in. Keita is definetly staying, VVD may stay, but if we fold under pressure FSG will be massively under pressure especially our failings in the transfer market. I know we ain't barcelona and players want to go, but we have got 3 weeks to get players in. Already missing lallana, studge, clyne etc.

11 Aug 2017 17:50:43
This coutinho saga has been going on for more than a year, everyone at the club has known he wants to go to Barcelona and that Barcelona wants him for over a year.
If there is no contingency plan in place for phil leaving then you have to ask why not?

I said it earlier in the window that if phil goes but Robertson, salah, keita and VVD come in the team is improved. He's an excellent player but it's a team game.

11 Aug 2017 17:45:05
If we sell coutinho I'd go buy dembele from Dortmund just to wind Barcelona up 😂😂.

11 Aug 2017 17:39:22
Apparently Klopp doesn't want Plan B players. Salah, Mane and Wijnaldum all represent alternative to preferred choices. We have no plan B options, imo, due to our own arrogance in belief that we would apply pressure on clubs pull of LFC would see VVD and Keita become reds. This is mere speculation, however, I feel a combination of arrogance, shortsightedness and lack of class has seen us come unstuck, atleast thus far. We have gone a long way to further damaging an ever whimpering reputation with other clubs and our Bully tactics have seen us flush our own heads down the pan.

Bit of a rant, apologies.

Wish you all a good weekend.

11 Aug 2017 18:08:30
Solanke is different and reminds ne of a good old British striker.

I reckon he's a good old plan b option.

11 Aug 2017 17:29:46
Hugely important for the club, the owners and Klopp to stand firm and keep Couts. This is a huge moment for the club. Anyone who thinks it's ok to lose our best player is deluding themselves, just when he is fully acheiving his potential and the club is progressing upwards in the league and back in the Champions league.

Hold the line and the world, the fans, the manager and the dressing room know we are no longer a selling club and we are serious about rejoining the top table.

Sell and we go back to hoping we can sneak into the top 4 every so often. Sell and Klopp starts thinking about his future.

Couts is a 25 year old millionaire. He will be upset for a little while but will get over it. It's a world cup year and any Brazilian player will have to perform for his club to cement his place in the Brazil team.

11 Aug 2017 17:21:50
Hi Guys / Eds

Not posted for some time but here goes!

Couts saga.

Barca want Couts, he wants to go, we don't want him to go.
It's a Tough one, given that the word is it's his 'dream' move, as Real or Barcelona is for most South Americans.
this has clearly now become a stand Off, and all parties now want and need to save face, as best they can.

Given that PSG have gone and blown the whole market wide open,
Barca need to cough up a more
realistic fee.

If Neymar had gone for 120m and then Couts for 80mish, we'd have all thought that was about right.
But now that's changed somewhat.

Personally, I'd try get the maximum fee from Barcelona and then go for Dele Alli, or 2nd dib Ericsson. Alli
Will prob cost most of Couts money but would be worth it.
Both could easily fill the void
😉👍🏼.

11 Aug 2017 17:50:40
Love deli alli and it's a joke that we he's not a Liverpool player. He's destined for greatness but not at Liverpool. He's never signing. He's happy at spurs and spurs have no interest in selling. They'll eventually sell in a few years and I assume to a Madrid or Barcelona.
Also. Why do Liverpool fans assume leaving spurs for us is a step up? Where have spurs finished the last few seasons?

11 Aug 2017 17:53:25
Delli Alli must be worth £200 million if Sigurdson is worth £50 million, he's better than Coutinho too in my opinion.

{Ed025's Note - but alli plays a different position to gylfi and couts jord so its hard to compare them mate..

11 Aug 2017 17:09:10
I don't think even Macca has anything left in his bag that could cheer us up today : (.

11 Aug 2017 17:51:00
Don't worry Angus, you'll feel different in May when we win the league.

Last time our top player left us high and dry before the start of the season - Michael Owen. Went to Spain, never recaptured his form and LFC went on to win the champions league that season after getting through the qualifiers. It's a team game, the team will get stronger with Klopp pulling the strings. Believe!

😎🏆.

11 Aug 2017 16:54:06
Coutinhos a goner. What a blow it will be. We may get close to 100 million for him but we're not buying anyone close to world class to replace him . Now you'll have fans saying but we bought solanke and salah but he's been key to our attacking play.
There's noone even available regardless to replace coutinho. Teams win titles but the lad has been vital for us and was truly growing into a great great player. I guess his best years will be at Barca.
It's a great signing for Barcelona especially as a replacement for iniesta and an aging team that needed a young world class playmaker. It'll be a big blow for us. If you think differently you're in denial.

11 Aug 2017 16:59:42
I said this season was going to be difficult and I felt we would struggle. I stand by that.

11 Aug 2017 17:01:47
Saying people who don't agree with you are in denial isn't entirely true the only thing you seem even close to the mark with in your comment is the fact Coutinho will go. Close to 100 million? It will exceed 100 million by quote and amount of bet otherwise FSG would have simply said 'add ten million there fellas' when they received the previous bid. Watching salah is great he's full of energy, quick and has a lot of ability, which we missed while mane was out last season, nobody has put any pressure on solanke although I believe he could do a job. I think you need some citalopram.

11 Aug 2017 17:09:03
You can't judge how we're going to perform before the season starts. The wildcard to what we truly can achieve next season is Daniel sturridge. Already he's had an injury. However if By some miracle we get 30 plus appearances out of him especially in the Premier league we will be there and there abouts even without coutinho.
If we forget about sturridge and focus on coutinho yes it will be a blow. Losing your best player and hoping to improve on last season? I'm not sure. Salahs a good player and addition. Solanke will be in and out.
Before the window opened I wanted a quality left back, centre back and midfielder. Robinson is a poor signing but I hope he works extremely hard, vastly improves and turns out a solid defender at the very least.
Keita and van dijk are up in the air.

11 Aug 2017 17:12:50
The squad wasn't good enough to compete for silver wear last year, selling your best play maker isn't the way to go about changing that.

11 Aug 2017 17:15:01
You say a lot of negative things Frank.

11 Aug 2017 17:17:10
"It'll be a big blow for us. If you think differently you're in denial"
Yes if you don't think it will be a huge blow for us especially our champions league aspirations if you had any before hand. Fans playing it off need to come back into the light. Coutinho pulled us through some huge games because he's got that extra bit of quality that the rest of the squad don't have with the exceptions of a fit Daniel sturridge. It's called being world class.

11 Aug 2017 17:22:23
Davey it is a valid point though. We won nothing and klopp got as much as he could with the squad. Fans forget we players poorly for the last few months of the season. Some called it tiredness. I called it a lack of depth in the squad. Regardless of coutinho for a moment. We still needed reinforcements. Salary could be an excellent addition. However we have yet to improve the back line. Van dijk would be a welcomed man as would keita.

11 Aug 2017 17:30:00
Well I don't see any positives in the current situation?

Selling our best player for three magic beans to Barcelona is. not exactly the best way to go into the new season.

Fail to land our top two transfer targets because of incompetence.

Previous form shows that we are largely incapable of bringing in top players and when presented with a huge sum of money, we have wasted it.

Regardless of what the ITK's say, the chances of landing VVD and Keita are about zero, given that RBL don't need or want to sell and Southampton do not want to sell to us.

I have a bad feeling about this season.

11 Aug 2017 17:51:57
Too many doubters 🙄

I'm a believer, Klopp will deliver us the title this season with or without Coutinho 😎🏆.

11 Aug 2017 17:55:55
Frankly the windows not closed. We're still a top six side.

11 Aug 2017 16:52:36
Too many egos at play here. Let the lad go to Barca. He knows it's now or never for him. South American players are never loyal. Very few footballers in general are these days. Why are people so personally offended when players like Coutinho want to move on. There is no loyalty in the game on both sides, from owners to players. It's about money and honours. Always will be. He's been here for 5 years and won nothing because the club haven't progressed that much. We had a title sniff under Todgers and got to two finals in Klopps first season but still empty handed.
Let's face it we've always replaced players that have moved on and we will continue to do so. Its annoying that he's requested the move the day before the league opener. He could have waited till Wednesday next week until after CL qualifyier which says to me he doesn't love the club as he says. But if the owners have said no to the move and Klopp has too then if they do sell to Barcelona there will be a backlash from the fans. Either that and he stays and plays. Not going to not try his best especially in a World Cup year. He'd be a fool to strike.
My opinion is get rid. You don't want the disharmony. There's two weeks plus left to get some signings to make us better. Let's get behind the players who do want to be here. For now.

11 Aug 2017 17:06:27
Jimble, we haven't always replaced players who have left. For example we didn't replace Hyypia, we didn't replace Torres, we didn't replace Suarez, we didn't replace Gerrard and each time we struggled for years afterwards. So to say that we have replaced them is a complete fallacy, we are entering the new season in disarray, with the possibility that we would have sold our best player having not been able to adequately replace him.

11 Aug 2017 17:10:57
Disharmony? I can't see coutinho if by some miracle he stayed acting unprofessional. He'd keep his head down and play football.
You don't think his teamates will be gutted they're losing their best player?

11 Aug 2017 16:43:41
Gents, I'm an older Southampton fan who regularly reads the Saints pages here, including the many posts put on by Lfc fans of which there are many. Sometimes talking of modern slavery for poor Mr Van Strike.
For my part I'm disappointed with Mr Coutino (spelling ) as much as I am with Mr Van Strike I do feel it fair to point out We have endured this for months without any formal representation being put to us from any clubs. It does appear you have many legends, close to the club, who own wooden spoons. At least Barcalona have had the decency to have approached you formally, so as disappointing as both of our situations are they are not equal, in my view personal view of moral terms.
I hope you enjoy your season and appreciate the decent and honest players in all of our ranks.

11 Aug 2017 16:34:08
Seems like the transfer request is true. Gutted that he is forcing a move away from Liverpool. I guess when clubs like Barca/ Real come knocking, it'll surely unsettle players. Just wonder why Coutinho signed a new contract without a release clause if he was looking to engineer a move away from Anfield?

As a fan, I'm utterly disappointed and I'm sure it will impact the team but we'll just have to soldier on. We've been trough this when Torres, Suarez and Sterling left. It'll take time to rebuild but there's nothing much we can do about it.

11 Aug 2017 16:50:21
He signed it because of an increase in wages and a signing on bonus. Same thing Suarez did. It's kind of ridiculous to give such a reward to a player and then 5 months later they hand in a TR. Part of me wants to sell him and be rid, part of me doesn't want him to put the shirt on again. And part of me wants to keep him and forget all this happened in 2 months.

11 Aug 2017 16:25:19
We should agree to the transfer if his agent agrees to give up is commission just as courtino has giving up his 5% with his transfer request
I guess courtino would soon be advised to withdraw his transfer request.

11 Aug 2017 16:53:48
We don't pay his agent.

11 Aug 2017 17:03:43
Sorry Benny Did I say Liverpool paid it or did I say agents commission?

11 Aug 2017 16:08:13
Everyone needs to get a sense of perspective here.

Footballers are professionals and for 99.999% of them their career and earnings come before loyalty to club.

I work in PR and have been with the same firm for several years. I have a great relationship with the gaffer and can't fault my workmates or workplace at all.

However if a bigger company was to come knocking tomorrow doubling my salary I would have little hesitation in moving since in my eyes this would be of greater benefit to myself and my family.

It really is that simple. Like it or loathe it football has moved on from the days of Sir Tom Finney and fans have to accept the new reality.

Play hardball with Barca, take the £100m and buy a replacement like Lanzini and move on.

11 Aug 2017 16:14:25
or not like Lanzini, please.

11 Aug 2017 16:28:43
Lanzini? Lol

That kind of strategy, "buy someone like" is exactly why players want to leave us and move to a bigger club!

11 Aug 2017 16:02:20
Over the past month I have been visiting the site and keeping quiet hoping that Couts would stay one more year. It seems like deja vu, the last time we got in the Champs league Suarez Left. However I believe the Eds are right, we must now get the best deal and leave him go. There are 20 days left of the window and we need this time to sort out our replacements.
If we could get VVD and Keita I would be reasonably pleased.
We do have players to replace Couts however we need more quality to bulk up the squad. 100M is a lot of cash, add that to the money we planned to spend and we could strengthen quite a bit.

Lets all thank Couts for his time, we have made a pretty packet on him, wish him well and send him off to Spain. All this media nonsense is getting in the way of moving forward and preparing for the season and Champs league.

Come on Klopp get your skates on, find replacements and move on.

Evered.

11 Aug 2017 15:59:11
Coutinho in form is one of the best players in the world. He had everything in his game last season. He produced moments of magic last season that many players wouldn't achieve in their whole career.
But He drifts in and out of games sometimes and we seen that when Klopp had him benched in a few games the season before last. We will miss Coutinho but not as much as we missed Suarez. Now what I don't want to see happening is FSG holding out until the last hours of the transfer window. Something is telling me we are not going to be happy with them keeping the money. If I was in this situation I'd sell now and bring in Aubameyang. Firminho is more of a provider than a out and out goalscorer so i'd prefer to put him behind Aubameyang. If we got him and VVD (who can take free kicks) we would have a very good season. We need a proper 20-25 goal a season goalscorer.

11 Aug 2017 15:52:58
I really couldn't give a toss about transfers at the moment. Tomorrow is the day I've waited for for the last 3 months and I'm not letting something that I have nothing to do with or control over spoil that for me. Come on Liverpool 3pts tomorrow and I'll be a happy man! YNWA!

11 Aug 2017 16:35:33
Well said COYR.

11 Aug 2017 15:40:44
Eds i remember a comment here from one of the eds stating firmino could play in couthinos position quite well, if couthino was to be sold would a forward be an option and push him back or is that just a personal opinion?

{Ed001's Note - we brought in two forwards already, how many do you want?}

11 Aug 2017 15:52:27
Push Firmino back, play Solanke/ Sturridge up top, sign a centre back, and replace Can (Keita, Andre etc) if he decides to leave.

I feel it is too late to be making wholesale changes. The season kicks off tomorrow. If Sokanke had cost £50m, after the pre-season he just had, people would be backing him for 20 goals!

Coutinho is not easy to replace so just adjust the system to suit and don't waste massive money on a panic buy.

11 Aug 2017 15:33:52
Guardian saying Couts emailed transfer request immediately after FSG saying he wasn't for sale at any price. Might be the way of the world but it's still pure greed with no loyalty whatsoever.

11 Aug 2017 15:36:48
Where's the greed?

11 Aug 2017 15:40:06
The timing of the TR disappoints me. Coutinho should have known better that LFC would not want to sell him so why not pull this stunt earlier? He is desperate to go to Barcelona so why care about what we LFC fans think of him?
This nonsense about "amicably" riles me up. He wants to join Barca, did not want to hand in TR, wanted to be in LFC fans' good books etc.
Someone should tell him you cannot have everything. Very soon he will forget about LFC and LFC fans will stop caring about what he does at Barca.

11 Aug 2017 15:46:02
Exactly the opposite, the boy wants his move and will give up his 5% to get it, therefore the next Barcelona bid will probably be accepted, we get more money and Couts gets his move (his dream move at that, probably the only club he would leave us for ATM) but we must line up a replacement first, it is too big a risk with 3 weeks left to presume we will get a replacement.

11 Aug 2017 15:26:09
If Couts wants to go let him go. Negotiate the best deal possible with Barcelona and let's move on.

11 Aug 2017 15:33:14
Then we're left with 20 days to find a top class replacement, and after the window so far I'm not at all confident in our ability to do that, either in identifying a competent replacement or buying them.

11 Aug 2017 15:39:15
It's okay frankly we can buy Leon Britton I'm sure he's on par with Coutinho. the issue here is now with all of this we have to look at targets who weren't originally critical to appease fans/ replace Coutinhos influence when if none of this happened, a CB would have been all we needed.

11 Aug 2017 16:02:20
Am I one of the fee who actually thought Salah was Pipco's replacement all along.? . We habe enough in midfield unless Can leaves too. Just really would like a top CB. Come in reds let's start with 3 points and hatful of goals and a clean sheet. Tomorrow's team prediction anyone.? .

11 Aug 2017 16:06:43
Don't tell that to the transfer committee, they'll slam in a £50m bid for him Right said f-red.

Realistically though, selling clubs will also hike the prices knowing we have a large wedge of cash. It'll be panic buys and substandard players that we will bring in. That's normally what we do in this situation.

11 Aug 2017 15:18:02
With coutinho most likely going to leave. Who are the realistic replacements klopp may look at?

11 Aug 2017 15:28:12
Naby Keita.
Macca seems to think so and Klopp will push even harder for him now that Coutinho is going.

11 Aug 2017 15:41:27
Macca never said that.

He said he was unsure whether the Keita transfer relies on the sale of Coutinho.

11 Aug 2017 15:53:40
Keita is the midfielder Klopp wants. Coutinho was intended to be played in midfield this season so Keita would be his obvious replacement.
Trust me, FSG and Klopp will go all out for Keita now. They know the squad is weak and Coutinho's departure will simply leave the fanbase reeling. We need to sign VVD and Keita now otherwise this will go down as one big disappointing transfer window.

11 Aug 2017 15:59:30
Anything got to do with Kieta is totally unrelated to Couthino, let's get that part put to bed guys.

11 Aug 2017 16:07:57
1st September, Nobby will still be a RBL player. They've no wish or compulsion to sell.

11 Aug 2017 15:12:44
Phil's going, let him go just make sure we get the money! It would be no different if any of us played for a mid table team and Liverpool wanted to sign us, I would have handed in a TR months ago.
We need to sign a suitable replacement that can make something out of nothing like Phil's goals against united and his screamers. Instead of saying RTTP or try searching, please can we have a list of viable options?!

11 Aug 2017 15:07:43
Anyone else think we are waiting to sell Couts to push again for Keita. Could this be the way ed?

{Ed002's Note - It is unrelated.}

11 Aug 2017 14:53:23
My opinion is that we should stand firm and not allow Coutinho to leave.

1. We don't need the money.
2. It's too late in the window to find suitable replacements.
3. We have just got back into the Champions League and we all know what happened last time when we sold Suarez.
4. If RBL and Southampton can stand firm then surely we can.
5. If Barcelona want him that bad they will wait a year.
6. I'm sure players have handed in transfer requests before, not got the move and still stayed and performed well at their clubs. I. E. David De Gea.
7. If we want to be a big club and win trophies we cannot keep selling our best players.

I can totally understand Couts wanting to play for Barcelona. You cannot blame someone for having ambition etc as Barcelona are certainly in a better place to win trophies at the moment. But in 5 years time when Messi, Suarez and Pique have gone they will be in far from the best team unless they make the right signings. I don't think their transfer business has been great since they bought Suarez. Real Madrid are a far better team than Barcelona at the moment and still have you up and coming players like Asensio. He could end up at Barcelona and win nothing.

They club should tell him he can only go on the clubs terms. Next season would be fair so that we can sign the right replacements before he leaves etc.

{Ed002's Note - As I have explained, the reason for what is happening now is that Barcelona won't wait a year.}

11 Aug 2017 15:04:53
Yeah I understand that Ed. That just shows he is not a priority for Barcelona and that they would happily sign an alternative player. Where as Klopp is prepared to wait for Keita because that's who we want. We should stand firm and tell Barcelona to jog on!

{Ed002's Note - You are missing the point that they are looking for a player to replace Iniesta now - they are not going to wait another year. And I am not aware of any statement that Liverpool would waut a year for Keita.}

11 Aug 2017 15:16:34
No I understand they want to sign a player to replace iniesta now. What I am saying is i don't believe now is the right time for Liverpool to sell Coutinho. If we want to win trophies again we need to keep our best players. I wouldn't be thrilled if i was Coutinho and Barcelona said it's now or never. Then point I'm making is we don't need the money and don't need to sell. It's just my opinion on what I would like the club to do. I respect the fact that the eds have better knowledge of all that's going on.

11 Aug 2017 15:20:35
And what if they can't get their replacement for Iniesta, what would would happen then?
Clubs can't just bow down because Barcelona stomp their feet.

{Ed002's Note - They are not bowing down - these are just transfers, it is business as usual and no different to Liverpool buying Robertson for example.}

11 Aug 2017 14:47:22
Wouldn't it be ironic if we qualified for champs league and was in the same league as barca.

11 Aug 2017 14:56:25
Not really and they would likely smash us everywhere and Coutinho would score a worldy free kick to rub salt in. All optimism has gone. 😂😂😂.

11 Aug 2017 15:20:44
in the same group as Barcelona and Leipzig, now that's interesting!

11 Aug 2017 14:46:27
Hi eds quick question for yis, If Coutinho is sold is their any chance of us making an offer to Arsenal for Sanchez? And also would they sell to us? and do you think he would move to us?

{Ed002's Note - (a) No. (b) I don't see why not. (c) I would have though no chance.}

11 Aug 2017 14:40:54
Macca do u think we can delle ali if we let coutinho go this season may be for £150mil. upfront annd i don't want him to go for less than this.

11 Aug 2017 14:53:22
Don't sell him and just leave him out. See how quickly he wants to start playing again with the World Cup on the horizon!

11 Aug 2017 15:16:08
What a ridiculous statement to make. This would only deter any player from wanting to sign for us.

11 Aug 2017 14:33:10
All the people on here saying if he wants to go we will wish him all the best need to give their head a wobble, to hand in a transfer request the day before the new season starts and three weeks before the transfer window shuts is disgraceful the club and fans deserve better than this.

11 Aug 2017 14:38:06
Totally agree mate, make him Rot in the reserves next season if he doesn't want to play.

11 Aug 2017 14:43:45
I want to agree with you.
But what is the point in keeping an unhappy player?

11 Aug 2017 14:44:18
What nonsense the club has known for a year he has been agitating for a move and so have the fans. If the club have muffed up the transfer window that's not his fault. Free coutinho lol.

11 Aug 2017 14:52:16
Fans and club deserve better. but what about him. Does he not deserve to challenge for titles? And as we've seen so far in this window we lack either the ability or the ambition to get the big players that will make us compete. Can't blame him for wanting to leave if we're not matching his ambition. And plus it's Barcelona, that's like every South Americans dream.

11 Aug 2017 15:03:32
I agree we need to think about the club not the player, if it is decided it's best for the club to let him go then I wish him all the luck, however it has frustrated me that he has handed a transfer request in now, as mentioned we've all known it could happen at any time but why not when the first bid went in? I say rinse Barcelona for all they've got. Barcelona are soon to be a spent force anyway. The numbers spoken about for dembele were more than they offered for Coutinho so that's an insult. We should state a take it or leave it price, that is in favour of us not them (135-150 million) . Phil's attitude has been forever respectable I just don't like the timing of the transfer request.

11 Aug 2017 14:31:00
Ed's (and all for discussion) . Given Pipco leaves do you see Klopp changing his formation to deal with the loss or go for a like for like number 10? I for one would like to see us get Dolberg from Ajax and maybe move Firmino back into the role Couts was likely going to play this season. I know he hasn't gone yet but it looks likely. Thoughts?

{Ed002's Note - He won't change anything to do with the formation.}

11 Aug 2017 14:40:54
Thanks for the reply Ed have LFC shown any previous interest in Dolberg? I know he would cost a packet but surely with all the money likely washing about even before the Coutinho money we could afford it. I used search but last time he was mentioned was June.

{Ed002's Note - No.}

11 Aug 2017 14:50:13
Damn the lad is class aswell, suppose the stepping stone scenario might take place again tho, Ajax - LFC - Barcelona 😂😂 Thanks for a great site by the way and hard work you all put in.

{Ed002's Note - That is what Keita was suggesting as well - he said the move would get him to one of the "big clubs" in a couple of yeras - Barcelona, Real madrid or Manchester City.}

11 Aug 2017 14:54:03
I'd go for Dolberg as well. May as well pay £30-40m for him now when he will be going for £100m next year.

I thought you mentioned the other day that Liverpool may have had a look at Dolberg Ed.

{Ed002's Note - Looking at a player is far from any interest being sjhown. Clubs look at hundreds perhaps thousands of players each year. Interest is declared in far fewer. You can forget Dolberg.}

11 Aug 2017 15:06:39
Who can we look to then ed?

{Ed002's Note - I have been through this over and over.}

11 Aug 2017 14:28:28
I know the reports have been debunked regarding the transfer request, but there is no smoke without fire. Then mysteriously we were back in again for Luan as of yesterday. I think the lad is on his way and we are looking hard for a replacement.

Dont think vvd is ever going to happen and pretty miffed we have not identified and brought in an alternative.

We will basically be the same as last year, so in the mix but not having the quality at the back or quality in depth to maintain a challenge.

11 Aug 2017 14:57:54
I think luan could surprise many. Don't know much about him but he is highly thought of in Brazil.

11 Aug 2017 14:28:04
How many of us would take a macca rumour about now to clear it all up? lol.

11 Aug 2017 15:04:38
I saw Macca making out with Ed2 behind the bike shed.

11 Aug 2017 14:25:57
What a joke our club is becoming were just selling club alonso. torres. suraez. sterling now the best of the lot courtinho going to be a very hard season for us in my opinion carnt seem to get our targets in who we want vvd keita and why haven't we looking at a 20 goal a season forward I'm baffled to be honest we look so weak at the back so why isn't been addressed everyone on the fourm comments about our back line need I say more top 4 we having a laugh ain't we rant over😯.

11 Aug 2017 14:40:02
Positive as usual Marv.

11 Aug 2017 14:47:31
Coutinho is not the best of the lot, despite my dislike for suarez he is head and shoulders above coutinho. But he is the best we have right now granted.

11 Aug 2017 14:23:57
Ed 002,

Quick question if I may.

If there is still a stand off between LFC and Barcelona come the Hoffenheim game on Tuesday, if Couthino is on the bench but doesn't play, is he still cup tied if he were to move?

Cheers.

{Ed002's Note - It doesn't cup tie him even if he plays.}

11 Aug 2017 14:13:44
Why do i think of game of thrones when i consider what is going on with Liverpool's transfer window?

11 Aug 2017 14:19:59
Because now game of thrones there is always someone getting h*cked and as a Liverpool fan were used to getting h*cked? ;)

11 Aug 2017 14:20:27
I don't know. Why do you think of game of thrones when you consider what is going on with Liverpool's transfer window?

11 Aug 2017 14:09:46
Good Bye Coutinho.

It was a pleasure.

YNWA.

11 Aug 2017 14:26:10
Not for sale.

11 Aug 2017 14:08:55
Really gutted to lose Couts. Liverpool seems they just aren't able to hold on too big talents which is a sad reality. We need to up our game in all aspects. Cara's words about "thinking we are a big club" really striking home now.

11 Aug 2017 14:06:28
With "only" 20 odd days left in the transfer window, if Liverpool were to experience a "power cut" for the remainder of the time, as well as problems with phone signal and Wifi, I believe we could use this as our excuse to Coutinho for not selling him ;)

11 Aug 2017 14:05:15
Sorry sent to early! Just meant to say for gods sake I'm just bored of all this now! Let's just support the team whoever is in it and enjoy the season. Couts is not the be all end all. Neither is VVD nor Keita. We are fans we should turn up on a Saturday cheer until we are horse then go and have a beer with our mates. It's supposed to be enjoyable people!

11 Aug 2017 14:03:42
Transfer request confirmed!

Who cares. Bring on Watford.

11 Aug 2017 14:01:28
If coutinho wants to leave. then just sell him.
Players come and go.


YNWA
LFC4LIFE.

11 Aug 2017 14:07:27
Yes sell him it quite frankly what others think he's worth or isn't worth is irrelevant I think we should push for 150 million (pounds) Dortmund wanted what 135 for dembele? Coutinho is better, we need him don't need to sell him so we hold all the cards.

11 Aug 2017 14:15:19
I know what your saying, but if the club has an attitude like that to losing our best player then we will never be successful.

11 Aug 2017 14:36:38
You always know when a player is going when he comes out and declares his love for the club the fans and the city bloody hypocrisy.

11 Aug 2017 13:55:31
Only 2 players can fill the Pipco gap if he leaves in my opinion
Dele Ali
Christian Erickson
With spurs in such disarray at the moment we should submit a cheeky bid for either should Harry Potter leave.

11 Aug 2017 14:07:04
Sanchez?

And Levy wouldn't sell either at £200m especially not to a rival!

11 Aug 2017 14:52:54
Alli is brilliant, but I'd say it's easier to deal with Kim Jong Un than Levy.

11 Aug 2017 13:47:59
Don't worry about a thing. Because every little things going to be alright.

11 Aug 2017 13:47:07
Wait a minute, I've figured this out;
It's Barcelona who rang LFC asking for the T. R. pretending to be Couts.
They're such jokers these Barcelona boys.
Should put in a little bid for Messi, £33 quid foot-long Subway sandwich sounds about fair, we like a low ball offer, so why not?!

11 Aug 2017 14:11:40
Hahahaha😂😂

With this site going into meltdown, such relief is greatly appreciated. Thanks Kev.

11 Aug 2017 14:34:23
It is my pleasure Suku.
I honestly believe it's still exciting time ahead even if he's sold.
No player is irreplaceable and to even suggest it is ridiculous - except Messi, he is out of this world.

11 Aug 2017 13:20:54
If he wants to go let him go, I'll wish him luck, get the best price and move on.

11 Aug 2017 13:27:41
Same as the song?

😱😱😱

Stuck in my head now!

11 Aug 2017 13:35:48
Every player has a price. They should have anyway and also it doesn't matter who is playing for our club just support the ones that are.

11 Aug 2017 13:10:50
If these "sources" are correct, then it's not the end of the world. His silence on the subject was deafening to be fair so I wouldn't be shocked if true.
It's terrible timing but first Barcelona would need to lodge an acceptable bid, Coutinho only signed a new contract 6 months ago so much like the VVD case, we hold all the cards.
Wonder if his injury is legit.
So long as we try to replace him with quality I have no fears and it might actually be exciting.
We have lost better players and survived just fine, so have no fears.

11 Aug 2017 13:41:51
Spot on kev.

11 Aug 2017 13:16:49
Hi guys, new to the site, although been reading rumours on here on a daily basis for about 3 years. Thanks Eds for the good work.

11 Aug 2017 13:08:54
Got a feeling couts is off and we will sign that luan fella as his replacement 😤 Don't know anything about luan but hopefully he's half as decent at couts. can't believe he's handed in a transfer request if it's true but Barcelona always get what they want so when they put a bid in I automatically thought he's off if I'm honest. gutted really bad timing 1st day of the season and our best player wants out.

11 Aug 2017 13:24:21
Barcelona aren't the same side that many fear anymore. They need mass injections of quality throughout the team. Their midfield and defence needs an entire revamp. The magnificent iniesta is approaching 34. They've lost neymar and I can't see where the goal void isn't coming from. Coutinhos not going to fill that void so is messi and suarez both over 30 now I believe suppose to have incredible injury free seasons? I believe coutinhos probably seen as a replacement for iniesta or preparation to step into those big shoes.
Let's be clear. Barcelona is an aging regressing side with a new manager who I expect much of the same as the precious coach.

11 Aug 2017 14:18:37
Couldn't agree more al, he would be better off at Real Madrid!

11 Aug 2017 13:05:26
Ed025 knew! Couts is on the way out and to be fair if he has handed in a transfer request then he should go. BUT just because Barcelona messed up with neymar and now found themselves in limbo we shouldn't suffer! We need Phil or a decent infact no equal signing before he goes or unlucky son ya staying!

11 Aug 2017 12:53:57
No doubt the cout story will drag on.

However, imo regardless of whether he hassle a transfer request or not the strong statements of Klopp and FSG mean that he will be staying for at least one more season.

Wish all the FSG bashing would stop, they've put a lot of money into the club and it's not their fault our transfer dealings are a shambles, the blame rests with Klopp (much as I like him) and those in charge of transfer negotiations.

Also can't really blame Couts for wanting a move, he may not get another chance and every player wants to play for Barca/ Real etc, doesn't mean he doesn't love the club or is finding it hard to make a decision as Macca suggests.

Either way, a couple more signings to strengthen our weak positions and we should be on for a good season reds.

Cheers eds for all the good work and answering our questions, must be a nightmare in silly season esp with the news today!

11 Aug 2017 13:05:46
Spot on, Hamish. The owners simply can't win with many of our fans. Shame!

11 Aug 2017 12:53:11
Now James Pearce is reporting that LFC are adamant that they haven't received a transfer request. wtf is going on lol.

11 Aug 2017 12:51:50
Ed is the TR rumours from Couts true?

{Ed002's Note - Not that I am aware.}

11 Aug 2017 12:34:01
Now that its 100% coutinho is going let's not panic and make replacements without a thought, we have waited 1/ 4 of of a century. Another year hardly makes a difference. Give those bright academy kids a good chance before going in for pulisic and the likes.

11 Aug 2017 12:47:17
Aks, a year makes a big difference as it gives is an opportunity to have him help us progress through out the season and also gives us time to find a suitable replacement, something we will definitely NOT be able to do this summer. That is the point you are missing.

11 Aug 2017 12:54:15
Brother we have been missing the point for quarter of a decade now. How often have we found suitable replacements?

11 Aug 2017 13:11:59
Akshit, since 2009, we have been woeful at replacing our best players either by Benitez, Roy and BR and that is clear. Klopp is diff, IMO. He will not buy just for buying sake if who he wants is/ are not available. Cou is the typical example here. Bar Eriksen or Sanchez, I do not see who can do the things Cou can do for us. NOBODY! . Knowing that, it is imperative that Cou stays so we have a whole season and a better chance of replacing him as much as we can. Cou will leave us at some point for sure and I'm fine with that and I am more confident of us being able to replace him with Klopp than with the other managers who messed up, big time.

11 Aug 2017 12:30:47
Didn't think Coutinho would actually hand a request in, Suarez didn't even do that and he's a far superior player.1 More season then bugger off.
Doesn't mean we have to sell, if FSG don't want to look like absolute mugs they should dig their heels in after their statement a few hours ago!
Still, I do think we'd have to sell if Barcelona offer silly money ie. £130 mil+
We can then perhaps buy a 20 goal a season striker.
More to the point though. this will seriously hurt my fantasy league draft squad 😓.

11 Aug 2017 12:50:02
Nomi, Klopp is not buying a striker as we already have 5 of them here so that should be put to bed. Cou's putting a TR in changes absolutely nothing. Roo put in a TR twice at Utd and Fergie still did not let him go. The owners have spoken and and they definitely won't sell now so Cou's camp made a huge mistake here, IMO.

11 Aug 2017 12:50:45
So Liverpool deny they received a transfer request (even sky sports say that) so who is to be believed the club or some 'source' on the oh so well renowned sky? It's balls until eds say it.

11 Aug 2017 12:52:08
Suarez? He treated us appallingly to get out.

11 Aug 2017 13:13:22
Your source will be Ed02, who said that the TR reports are false.

11 Aug 2017 12:38:57
It's not true don't mind sly he hasn't put in a request!

11 Aug 2017 12:53:18
So did he or didn't he, then? I'm confused.

11 Aug 2017 12:37:06
A day before your opening game against Watford and Coutinho, by far your best player, wants to leave. Clubs a bigger mess than brexit.

11 Aug 2017 13:14:22
Don't see any teams interested in your players scholes. There is a reason.

11 Aug 2017 16:24:40
Like we haven't kept De Gea at the club for the past 3 seasons fella.

11 Aug 2017 12:35:22
It'll be Sad to see phill go, but we always recover after loosing a star. Let's just hope the money goes on class and not Rickie Lambert :) :) :) :)

11 Aug 2017 12:56:10
Redbutcher, and who do you suppose we get if we were so stupid enuff to let him go this summer at this time of the TW esp. since Barcelona are having difficulty signing Dembele now? The same thing happening to Barcelona with Dembele, will happen to us too if we were dumb enough to sell him. That is is what you and many others are missing.

11 Aug 2017 15:07:52
So, we keep a player who has no desire to be at the club anymore? When we could have 100mil? Even if we over pay on a player we have more than enough time to bring someone in. Stop panicking, let the lad go live his dream move. Klopp we have a list of players available to fill his void.

11 Aug 2017 12:23:39
Couts has handed in a transfer request according to the vultures at ss news.

Gutted, but if he wants to go, let him go. We have lost our best players in the past. Players come and go but we will always be LFC bigger than any player.

Cash in, move on and good luck to him, he's been a cracking player.

11 Aug 2017 12:40:23
Seems he is no longer 50/ 50 then.

11 Aug 2017 12:27:18
Well that didn't last long.
Just sell him now. Enough is enough and pay up for Keita whatever is necessary coz our season is very close to nosediving.

11 Aug 2017 12:33:14
You can't blame the guy for wanting to progress.

11 Aug 2017 12:33:27
Yes and if we keep losing our best players we can keep forgetting about winning the league.

He has a 5 year contract. If he wants to sulk for the season in a World Cup year so be it.

I'd put him in the ressies if that's the case, let Barcelona find someone else.

11 Aug 2017 12:33:44
Buckle up eds it's about to get bumpy!

11 Aug 2017 12:33:46
Spot on hope we can get something sorted out soon so we can look at replacing him. Let's not get sucked into he can't be replaced.

11 Aug 2017 12:44:03
The club will look like fools once again by writing that statement saying he won't be sold this window if he does go. Espically if we end up signing Van Dijk aswell, twice in this window 2 statements we've gone back on our word😂.

11 Aug 2017 13:01:27
FSG will not allow themselves to look like fools. American businessmen will not be made a fool of in public and Cou's team made a mistake here, IMO.

Cobra, find a replacement? Who would that be? How much would that replacement cost? You are aware that if we sell him now, we will have the same issues Barcelona are having with replacing Neymar as no one wants to sell to them and those who do, want most of the Neymar money, right? We will struggle big time if we let him go and this will only lead to panic buying and clearly, Klopp will not do that. He must not be sold, end of and I'm with the owners on this.

11 Aug 2017 12:20:31
Countiho handed in transfer request.

11 Aug 2017 11:17:56
Wow, Ed002 you weren't joking, Klopp is looking a bit rough around the edges at the press conference! Looks like he's aged about 10 years, the joys of management.

11 Aug 2017 11:41:30
I think we've all aged about 10 years this summer.

11 Aug 2017 12:16:22
And that's just from the repeated questions of people who don't RTFP, as it was so eloquently put earlier.

11 Aug 2017 11:17:56
Wow, Ed002 you weren't joking, Klopp is looking a bit rough around the edges at the press conference! Looks like he's aged about 10 years, the joys of management.

11 Aug 2017 11:01:17
Okay, now to concentrate on one or two in-comings please FSG.
Knew I liked you guys for a reason.
Said it before and I'll say it again, they are good owners/ custodians and we should be satisfied with them with how they saved the club from death and now we're on the verge of getting back near the top.
If we get one or two in, we'll have a very good season I feel.

11 Aug 2017 11:17:14
spot on. the FSG haters have gone very quiet. They have shown massive intent this window by even putting up sums over 70 million for a single player for the first time in a long time we are refusing to accept money for a player we can't replace. This is a crossroads I feel. COME ON YOU REDS.

11 Aug 2017 11:17:14
spot on. the FSG haters have gone very quiet. They have shown massive intent this window by even putting up sums over 70 million for a single player for the first time in a long time we are refusing to accept money for a player we can't replace. This is a crossroads I feel. COME ON YOU REDS.

11 Aug 2017 11:37:50
Never understood why they were so disliked in the first place. Who took over the club and saved us from almost certain administration - FSG.
What were they expected to do next? Keep on wasting money? They have stabilised the club, yes they have made mistakes since, but as long as they treat the club and fans with respect and don't insult our intelligence (some of us have it lol), then we should be fine with them.

11 Aug 2017 10:53:49
Mornin' Ed001,

Hope your man flu is improving.

We know that you are not VVD's biggest fan. Personally I think he is a marked improvement on what we have and could get even better with the right coaching.

Given the position we are in the window who would you like to push to sign for the CB position that would be a feasible option at this time?

Would you push for VVD given he is "desperate" to join us? Would you go for someone else, if so, who? Or would you just forget it, stick with what we have and look again in the future?

Cheers in advance.

{Ed001's Note - considering that our actions have massively contributed to the situation that VVD is in, I feel we have to do the right thing by him and sort something out with Southampton. It is only right. Then we should sit down with all the clubs we have wronged over recent years and apologise for our actions. Then the club should produce a set of guidelines for all staff to abide by, a proper enforced and enforcable code of conduct for dealings with other clubs. Sorry got a little carried away then! The answer is VVD.}

11 Aug 2017 11:15:15
I would have to agree on all points made above as well as perhaps offer Sakho at a knockdown price to them (Klopp obviously doesn't want to repair this relationship) .
We owe them something, we messed with their player.
We also seemed to have messed him around too in terms of different wages offered I have been told.
We need to make this right with Southampton and with anybody else such as Fulham and Stoke who have an axe to grind against us.
It's not difficult, but pride will have to be tucked away and we'd need to let these clubs tell us what they want us to do to go back to having a clean slate with them.

11 Aug 2017 11:15:27
Cheers Ed

I agree with you on all of that tbh. We need to fix things with the last person/ club we messed around and work backwards fixing the problems.

As a club we should be viewed as a pleasure to deal with not a horror.

I hope the higher ups are looking at how to rectify our bad reputation on these issues.


(Oh but I would've preferred Koulibaly, Wilson or John Brooks (injuries permitting) over VVD if we hadn't messed him around in the first place)

11 Aug 2017 11:25:28
enforcement of the guideline will be important. maybe a man specific to monitor and ensure that we work within the rules and we also comply to the internal guideline that you mentioned. possibly review the internal guideline periodically to ensure it is inline with any changes made to the rules as well.

this would ensure continuity as like players, managers are also transient employees of the club. things should be carried forward whether there is a change of manager or not.

11 Aug 2017 11:15:15
I would have to agree on all points made above as well as perhaps offer Sakho at a knockdown price to them (Klopp obviously doesn't want to repair this relationship) .
We owe them something, we messed with their player.
We also seemed to have messed him around too in terms of different wages offered I have been told.
We need to make this right with Southampton and with anybody else such as Fulham and Stoke who have an axe to grind against us.
It's not difficult, but pride will have to be tucked away and we'd need to let these clubs tell us what they want us to do to go back to having a clean slate with them.

11 Aug 2017 11:15:27
Cheers Ed

I agree with you on all of that tbh. We need to fix things with the last person/ club we messed around and work backwards fixing the problems.

As a club we should be viewed as a pleasure to deal with not a horror.

I hope the higher ups are looking at how to rectify our bad reputation on these issues.


(Oh but I would've preferred Koulibaly, Wilson or John Brooks (injuries permitting) over VVD if we hadn't messed him around in the first place)

11 Aug 2017 11:44:01
That was obviously meant to be Gibson not Wilson. I'm so glad it's Friday.

11 Aug 2017 12:24:29
Given all we have done in this horrible Saga and if we finally manage to get him like we wanted it could easily become a romantic hollywood classic. it would bag oscars and all.
on another note if we sign VVD i don't think he will have a wonder season, i dare say we might have messed the lad up. it would take time for him to put this behind him.

11 Aug 2017 10:50:47
Keeping and point blank refusing to sell coutinho to those Spanish super giants is a real sign of intent by Liverpool. In the prem actually in world football names dint come much bigger than coutinhos so keeping him is massive.
Me personally I would be happy with one addition a cb a quality cb though. Some one that would genuinely challenge matip or daj.

11 Aug 2017 11:02:44
Well done FSG and Klopp. must be a shock to Barca's system being told NO.
And I suspect a lot of other non Liverpool fans will be gutted that we won't be losing Coutinho this season.
.

11 Aug 2017 10:43:23
FSG released a statement saying Coutinho is going nowhere. They would have serious egg on their face if they sold him know.

11 Aug 2017 11:31:18
You mean like they did when they said Suarez wasn't for sale?

11 Aug 2017 10:09:51
Looks like Coutinho is staying then! Pretty firm message from FSG.

11 Aug 2017 10:37:14
Thank you Mr Henry.

11 Aug 2017 10:09:42
FSG have just issued a statement that Philippe countinho will not be sold this transfer window at any price.
👍.

11 Aug 2017 09:57:45
Nice to see Brendan Rodgers say some nice words today on Coutinho and the fans (not all clearly ha) .
I liked the guy, but he just fell short and wasn't a big enough personality it seemed.
Only young, so can see him in the PL again in a few short years with a decent club.

11 Aug 2017 09:16:04
Away from all the transfer talk, what is everyone's opinion about the new penalty system, ABBA?

{Ed001's Note - oh Mamma Mia, not this again. It's the Name of the Game though, I saw it in the Mirror, but it does make a change, as usually the talk is just Money, Money, Money, but I Have a Dream, that the Winner Takes it All.

I am going to stop now sorry! I think the manflu I have is affecting my brain....}

11 Aug 2017 09:31:11
You don't seem keen ed 01
Perhaps you should take a chance.

Don't go wasting your emotions on it though.

{Ed001's Note - I no longer have the search page up with the list of their song titles so I have no idea if they are ABBA songs or not? Sorry I have no idea about ABBA's music at all. Would need one of the oldies like Ed025 or Ed007 for that.}

11 Aug 2017 09:34:29
I am glad u finished ed I was about to send out an SOS for you.

{Ed001's Note - oh god don't send those morons after me! They wouldn't have time anyway, they are far too busy trying to claim to speak for all LFC fans, even though they have never spoken for me and never will.}

11 Aug 2017 09:37:52
The new Erasure version is decent.

Each player has to jump on his teammates back. dribble and shoot. goal.

Trialled in Brazil and the boys loved it.

11 Aug 2017 09:44:20
I don't think it was a problem that needed fixing really
We all love a good tense penalty shootout.

11 Aug 2017 10:05:15
Which ever way you do them, the winner takes it all.

11 Aug 2017 09:52:30
They were ed. I promise.
Though next time I see you quoting stuff I'm going to post replies with nothing to do with it to catch you out.

{Ed001's Note - just checking, as people do tend to get a bit confused.}

11 Aug 2017 08:12:00
What's happening with Allan?

11 Aug 2017 09:21:02
There's a paragraph in the Echo on him today, maybe a sentence or two.

11 Aug 2017 09:21:18
And where's Waldo.

11 Aug 2017 08:23:02
As far as I can see Liverpool were never going to make any huge signings until champions league status is confirmed. They're in limbo and can't give players any guarantees. Salah was shrewd and champions league perhaps wasn't his motive, whilst other signings have taken a step up in career and potential game time, so champions league football was a bonus. VVD, Keita and Coutinho all want and need champions league football, so I'm not sure why everyone is panicking about the lack of signings at this stage. I suspect the deals will largely be in place but will only materialise if we progress.
If we get champions league I think VVD will come and Coutinho will stay. Keita already has champions league and so will stay put for the time being.
If we don't get champions league I dread to think, but Coutinho will go and VVD will no doubt end up
at Chelsea. We certainly won't be selling Coutinho before these two huge games because he will be pivotal in helping us to win them!

11 Aug 2017 09:36:39
VVD hasn't arrived at LFC due to the small fact that we haven't actually put a bid in for him.

11 Aug 2017 08:02:05
Im reading in the Echo that Couts and Studge are both set to miss the Watford game .

Strange as they both had very minor injurys. Sturridge said after the Bayern game its just fatigue and he is fine, 2 weeks later he is still out. What is going on.

11 Aug 2017 08:12:26
We have options. No need to rush anyone back these days.

11 Aug 2017 08:18:44
Coutinho has a back injury, he was alsways going to miss the Watfird game and Sturridge's fatigue was self diagnosed. You don't wince like that with fatigue.

11 Aug 2017 08:27:55
its obviously precaution never heard of it? Arsenal are doing it with Alexis, Ozil, Mustafi this weekend rather they have a weekend of getting physically fitter instead of aggravating the slight knocks more.

11 Aug 2017 08:31:33
Firmino would be starting anyway.

11 Aug 2017 08:54:37
Looks like he is injured.

11 Aug 2017 09:14:49
lallana is also out.

11 Aug 2017 09:18:09
Saving them for champions league qualifier game on Tuesday most likely.