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04 Dec 2025 08:32:53
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03 Dec 2025 17:57:29
Hearing word that Salah is benched. Huge statement from Slot.

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03 Dec 2025 19:03:12
You weren't wrong, im going for a 3-1 win tonight.

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03 Dec 2025 19:05:01
He should be as well. He’s struggled sadly, don’t know what up with him but he can’t complain just be ready… teams out and I think that’s right and good management.

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03 Dec 2025 19:09:11
Good. I don't understand how he's been so untouchable and how his petulance at being subbed has ever been tolerated. This season he must have broken records for possession lost stats. To be clear, this isn't to take away the legacy, but Mo Salah is not as big as Liverpool Football Club. Good job Tris took away the down vote button, by the way.

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03 Dec 2025 19:32:44
Mo won the league for us last season following the conversation he had with Slot. He is also the most affected by the changes to the side, which can no longer be built around him.

People need to remember what he's done for 9 season's before uttering any negativity though. Im all for him being used sparingly, and even to sell him to the Saudi's in the summer if he'll go but let's keep it real.

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03 Dec 2025 21:04:41
Well we've been absolutely fantastic without him, haven't we?

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03 Dec 2025 21:44:52
All this rubbish that Salah has lost his legs blah blah blah. You don’t go from the most G/ A to a few months later being rubbish. It’s Slot’s inept tactics that are the root cause.

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03 Dec 2025 22:19:06
Slot should be benched.

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03 Dec 2025 22:34:03
I don’t think anybody with any sense is saying that Salah is rubbish @Frode. I think Salah has shown that he is quite a sensitive person in the past - when Egypt lost in the AFCON Final and then a month or so later failed to qualify for the World Cup - and he took quite a while to regain his confidence / form. This season he has been impacted by the death of Diogo - as shown by the tears in front of the Kop at the end of our first home PL game, allied to the fact that the new set-up means he’s no longer the focal point of the attack has damaged his confidence again. He is never (fully) effective when his confidence is shot and a new factor is that he has been building up the years on the clock, which almost invariably means the peak playing days get fewer and further between.

I wholeheartedly agree that he was the major factor in us winning the league and I still think he has a role to play - impact player off the bench against tired defences perhaps - but at present he doesn’t merit a starting spot in the team.

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03 Dec 2025 22:52:12
The fixation on Salah amazes me.
If you have a go at VVD, Macca, Konate, Gakpo, as much as you have a go at Salah, then I'd agree.

Our results and performances are not down to 1 single player. But because our performances are so rubbish, it's all down to our manager.

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03 Dec 2025 23:24:42
WDW I don’t agree with anything you’ve said. Yeah Salah hasn’t been great but not a single player in the squad has been great, minus maybe Szobo. The lunacy of putting our bad form down to Salah has been laughable. I’ll reiterate, it’s Slot’s tactics that are to blame for Salah’s form.

Salah needs quick and direct balls into feet or the channels. Not 30,000 passes where the entire front line are drowned out. Why do you think Isak only has about five touches a game.

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03 Dec 2025 23:59:16
Frode you're talking rubbish. Salah is not the same player. We got away with his lack of pressing and defensive work last season. Not this one.

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04 Dec 2025 05:45:43
Salah said himself that we Slot first came in, he told Salah that he doesn't have to work as much defensively as Klopp wanted him to.

So Frode has a point wrt the blame being the tactics. Yes, it may not be the sole reason, but Salah can't be blamed for something that he is instructed to do

It's just not Salah, its most of the squad that has fallen off. that points to tactics and training.

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04 Dec 2025 07:13:17
It isn’t solely tactics with Mo. You can see when he receives the ball there’s hesitation, he makes more misjudgements, and he just can’t beat a man. They’re all major problems with a wide player. I don’t know if we could tweak his position slightly and bring him infield a bit, but apart from that it’s difficult to see how he gets rebooted.

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04 Dec 2025 07:52:01
Mo was given the platform last season. I don’t think it’s right to say he carried us to the league. As we can see now and in other seasons we’ve gone on bad run of form, he isn’t carrying sh*t.

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04 Dec 2025 08:09:01
Ste G as caretaker for Xmas. gets us 4th via blood, guts and effort. Alonso in the summer to add the artisan factor, if he flunks at Real.

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03 Dec 2025 09:38:51
Morning All,

Guehi still has his heart set on the move to Anfield. He has been told we will be back for him Jan. I wouldn't be worried about other teams chasing him.

Outside of Semenyo and Guehi, we are also looking at options for CM and RB. No major signings for either positions I'm told in Jan but we may see a cheaper backup option come in.

Slot, again the club continue to back him. Nothing will change unless we go on a losing streak again but his position will be reviewed regardless come the summer.

Salah. Something I've heard and I have said it before on here recently. It is expected he will leave in the summer. He was due to walk away in the summer on a free, some players were bought with that in mind but he signed a new contract because he didn't want to leave the way the other idiot did and tarnish his legacy. That wouldn't of happened to him tho, that's only reserved for people who are local and then act like rats.

Both Wharton and Baleba are being looked at for the summer. Real are expected to come knocking for one of Grav or Macca.

Endo, Bajcetic can also leave if they want to.

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03 Dec 2025 11:34:09
Great info thefields. much appreciated.

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03 Dec 2025 11:54:04
That all seems pretty sensible.

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03 Dec 2025 11:54:55
Nice one fields.

Ta.

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03 Dec 2025 12:02:19
Thanks TheFields!

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03 Dec 2025 12:03:12
Semenyo and Guehi would be great additions - battle ready for the prem.
Im surprised Baj isn't going to get a chance. He can be excellent, at times.
Thanks Thefields.

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03 Dec 2025 12:03:20
Hopefully all of that is true as it all makes a lot of sense.

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03 Dec 2025 12:08:47
Cheers for update Fields :-)

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03 Dec 2025 12:12:24
I think they’ll strike a deal for Salah in Jan and he’ll stay until the summer.

There’s nothing Salah can do to tarnish his reputation. We’ve won everything in the last 10 years, including 2 titles which we’d waited 30 years to celebrate, a champions league and a world club championship.

He has been absolutely fundamental to some of our greatest moments as fans. He’s maintained his level longer than I ever expected, I only expected 4-5 years. He’s been absolutely incredible and always respected the fans and club.

Forever a legend.
He’ll leave one day but he’ll always be welcome in Liverpool.

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03 Dec 2025 11:16:05
Great reporting.

Are Palace going to let Guehi leave during a Wuro campaign though, mate? I reckon Schlotterbeck or Ait Boudlal will be targeted

Any news on the lad from Feyenoord?

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03 Dec 2025 12:27:51
I think unless we were bringing in Ederson as has been mentioned, selling Endo and Bajcetic would be very short sighted as we are very short of quality in depth in midfield, particularly thr type who can defend.

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03 Dec 2025 12:36:29
The time seems right for Endo with the world cup approaching. Bajetic never really got properly started, I had high hopes when he first broke through. I agree though if a CM doesn't come in then it would make sense to keep him until the summer.

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03 Dec 2025 12:42:37
Thanks Fields, prefer Bastoni to Guehi but if Guehi wants us so bad then he’s committed and that’s half the battle.

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03 Dec 2025 12:53:14
Cheers for the info Fields.

When you say both Wharton and Baleba is that one or the other or are we looking to bring in the pair of them?

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03 Dec 2025 13:06:30
Palace should be winning that tournament with or without Guehi though surely.

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03 Dec 2025 13:15:56
Cheers for the info Thefields.

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03 Dec 2025 13:28:23
Thanks for the info as always fields.

Love the idea of baleba. again doesn't seem like a slot player. but if he gets over ruled . can he just not play him? . like he has done with endo chiesa and others . unless of course he agrees to it and has recognised you need a bit of muscle in the middle of the park.

Interesting with regards to right back . maybe they are getting impatient and frustrated with injuries we are picking up there constantly.

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03 Dec 2025 14:29:39
Thanks TheFields. I would never let go of Gravenberch. Pity about Bajcetic; always hoped he would work out.

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03 Dec 2025 15:06:55
Baleba has gone from being Brighton's best player by far to not even completing most games this year, his form has pretty much been on par or even arguably worse than Macca's, wonder what's going on with him.

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03 Dec 2025 15:11:24
Don’t get the pining for Baj. He played a half a dozen or so good games about 3 or so years back when we were short on midfield options. His attitude wasn’t the best. He’s not had any luck with injuries since then but he hasn’t kicked on and hasn’t made the world sit up and take notice at all.

I think he’s basically missed his opportunity at Liverpool and it would be better for the lad to find a (second tier) club where he could hopefully get regular playing time.

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03 Dec 2025 15:22:24
Great info TF! V much appreciated. Both MG and AS would be fantastic additions.

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03 Dec 2025 15:37:27
Ait Boudlal was looked at in the summer but we moved for Leoni instead. Not sure if interest remains.

For those asking its both, not either with Baleba and Wharton. Hughes has over rulled him twice already (Chiesa and Frimpong), so wouldn't be surprised if that happened again.

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03 Dec 2025 16:01:30
Guehi, Semenyo, Baleba and Wharton would be another insane couple of windows.

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03 Dec 2025 16:28:53
Great info fields, thank you

Regarding the idea of bringing in both, would that mean selling off Macca and endo? I’d assume Wharton would replace Macca and Baleba for endo but with the idea to have more rotation for everyone?

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03 Dec 2025 16:38:29
In about 50 years Bajcetic is going to make some people's all time Liverpool 11 based on about 6 games he played when the team was on it's knees.

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03 Dec 2025 16:42:28
Thefields, great info and thanks.
When you say Hughes has over ruled him twice i assume you are talking about over ruling Slot on Chiesa and Frimpong? So if that's true is Slot barely playing Chiesa out of spite because he didn't want him? It would certainly explain a lot.

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03 Dec 2025 16:47:20
Have to say very noticeable change in transfer policy if that's the case .

Maybe hughes has seen that with 2 players for every position is the best squad make up . sprinkle that with a bit of youth here and there . like a blueprint for champ manager back in the day .

All we need now is cherno samba and that argie kid . DAlessandro. #winning.

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03 Dec 2025 17:04:29
Is there anyone else on Caicedo's level for that position?

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03 Dec 2025 17:31:34
I don’t mind the over ruling in this case but I just think frimpong was a terrible signing. His profile is the complete opposite of what we needed/ were using last season. Especiallypaired with the fact Kerkez was also very attacking and suited better ahead of the build up.

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03 Dec 2025 17:32:43
I’d also be thinking about Anderson and Wharton. Not sure baleba offers anything that different to gravenberch.

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03 Dec 2025 19:03:21
DAP, that's the most likely scenario.

Mcgoveb, correct. I don't think he is doing it out of spite, more he doesn't rate him.

With Frimpong, more of a winger than a RB imo. I would be using him there instead. Apparently Slot wanted Vanderson.

Anderson, £100m plus because of the English tax haha. Most of noise I've heard about him is Citeh.

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04 Dec 2025 01:09:23
Vanderson on is who I thought we would be more suited too. Do you know if him being home grown and being used to attract wirtz were big reasons? cos I can’t see it was his profile.

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04 Dec 2025 07:14:24
Good to know on Guehi. He’ll know he’s a guaranteed starter when fit.

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04 Dec 2025 07:08:37
I’m confident Salah will stay, either we will have a good run of results and the whole team is lifted as well as Salah and it’s business as usual and slot, Salah both stay.

Or we have another run of bad results, slot leaves and Salah stay. this is my opinion, slot and his tactics not working is the issue. Trying to change too many things too soon, his style of play doesn’t suit Salah and isak, The way we play at the moment isn’t playing to our best players strengths.

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03 Dec 2025 09:25:58
The BBC Gossip pages have Atlanta’s Edersom linked to the club again. Does his name keep cropping up because we have genuine interest or is it lazy clickbait journalism. Ed1… I understand that you have frustrations about Slots reluctance to use a more defensive minded midfielder, would Emerson be a change in his stance? I’ve only watched him in the Champions League and he does look quality.

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https://liverpool-rumours.co.uk/uploads/thumb_Ed001.png avatar{Ed001's Note - as far as I know, Slot does not want this type of midfielder, despite it being obvious we need one. However, he is not the final decision maker when it comes to transfers, so it is possible Hughes has decided to over rule him, as he must see the desperate need for that profile of mid. Personally I don't think it is anything other than just names being thrown about though.}

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03 Dec 2025 09:37:53
Did a ChatGPT roundup of him and it spewed out a description of the exact player my untrained eye feels that we need. The numbers being mentioned also don’t seem too insurmountable either. Hopefully he can come in and contribute.

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03 Dec 2025 11:08:43
Believe I seen something about him having not long left on contract so price would be significantly lower than previously quoted. May have something to do with it.

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03 Dec 2025 09:53:26
Didn’t Hughes bring in Tyler Adam’s for Bournemouth Ed?
Maybe he understands the need for physicality in this league. Having played in it himself.
Adam’s is the exact kind of profile we need. Obviously just levels below the standard we would need, but he’s tenacious. Fantastic work rate, covers allot of ground, aggressive, tackles hard and well and decent technically. Hopefully Hughes is seeing the need for someone like that.
The constant links to Adam Wharton though, as good as he is, don’t really fill me with to much excitement. Brilliant young midfielder but he needs a good foundation behind him. Ederson or Baleba etc.
to many technical midfielders and not enough who want to do the dirty work and protect the defence with their life!

Anyway, I’m babbling on a bit.
Up the Pool tonight! 2-1 win Im going for. As I said yesterday, it’s Hope that gets you!

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https://liverpool-rumours.co.uk/uploads/thumb_Ed001.png avatar{Ed001's Note - yes he did, so fingers crossed.}

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03 Dec 2025 12:30:26
I think the Ederson interest might be there as Atalanta may consider a lower fee because he’s not interested in renewing his contract.

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03 Dec 2025 14:09:54
If I remember right Viktor he's a player you personally have wanted for a long time. Would be a good addition, definitely lacking his type in our midfield.

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02 Dec 2025 12:49:26
Hi all,

As I stated a number of weeks back - Konate is not out the door just yet, and since my last post regarding his contract I have come to understand that there is a growing likelihood he pens a new deal. going to quick fire everything else that I know anyways, regardless of whether it’s contradictory to another poster or not. If I’m wrong, I’m wrong, but I don’t believe I am.

Slot - more likely to stay. Club still fully backing him despite doing doing due diligence on other managers (normal practice for the situation we happen to be in) .

Szoboszlai - likely to pen a new deal still. Talks stalling but no panic.

Gravenberch - same with Szobo. Id also be very shocked if he didn’t sign a new deal before the new year.

Semenyo - very advanced but not done yet. I expect Hughes to get this over the line and trigger his release clause.

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02 Dec 2025 13:18:12
Thank you for your insight. With Konate maybe staying on new deal. Read that Upamecano is in advanced talks for new deal with Munich. Would you know if Madrid turn their attentions to Guehi or do you expect like some others he is still likely to sign for us? Thanks.

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02 Dec 2025 13:24:25
Thanks Victor, appreciate the info!

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02 Dec 2025 13:25:18
Thanks Victor- all good news there IMO.
Szobo and Grav are no brainers as I fully expect and hope to have them at the heart of our midfield unit for many many years to come. Both now experience, good attributes and can do almost everything pretty well.
Semenyo I think will be a smart addition. He's actually versatile (unlike others who we like to pretend are but just arent), definitely two footed, can beat a man so will help against a low block but more importantly, I think his physicality is something we can we tap into in big away games to help us get up the pitch and pressing, areas I feel Gakpo and Mo have struggled with.

Ibou- I hope he stays. I think the critism has be OTT. He's his own worse enemy and does shoot himself in the foot but on his day he can mark any forward out of the game with his attributes and as we saw with Trent, Ibou can almost cover the space of two players. Do we need more CBs, especially better at progressing the ball? 100% but is a CB of Ibou age and experience someone I want to see go on a free? No chance.

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02 Dec 2025 14:06:25
Kloppiche, Guehi is not first choice for Madrid at the moment. To be honest, them declaring a non interest in Konate staggered me a bit because now I don’t know who they plan on moving for. However, if we miss out on Guehi, there are others we admire - Branthwaite and Schlotterbeck being two of them.

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02 Dec 2025 14:11:54
I think Madrid will go after Upemecano. Which is fine, because he’s absolutely terrible.

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02 Dec 2025 14:19:27
The absolute insanity of offering konate a new deal is mind boggling . And sticking with Slot haha.

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02 Dec 2025 14:32:33
I trust Slot to get it right.

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02 Dec 2025 15:32:06
Interesting regarding Semenyo as City’s interest is growing.

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02 Dec 2025 16:16:26
Don’t expect City to sign Semenyo without moving Savinho on first.

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02 Dec 2025 16:47:07
Thank for for the replies VictorGoddam.

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02 Dec 2025 18:18:32
Surely they are only going to get Konate to sign. Anew deal to sell him next year . we should get £10 and a tub of Ben n Jerry's ice cream for him.

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02 Dec 2025 19:49:00
Sign Konate to a new contract.

Then sell him in the summer.

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02 Dec 2025 20:06:47
If teams don't want to take a risk on Konate on a free, why would other teams be interested in paying a fee for him?

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02 Dec 2025 20:07:24
Getting Guehi may force him to play better.

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02 Dec 2025 20:58:44
Ta Victor

Dream signings for Jan would be - Semenyo and Bastoni.

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02 Dec 2025 20:59:04
isnt Schlotterbeck a left footer, so maybe someone to rotate then replace VVD,
its a rightfooter we need, to replace Konate, when he leaves .

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03 Dec 2025 00:33:42
I don't think we'll sign Semenyo in January.

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03 Dec 2025 01:42:21
It would be stood to get rid of Konate for free next summer if we can sell him on in the following winter or summer window. Makes sound business sense snd if he finds himself third or fourth choice starter next August it might even encourage him to get his backside into gear.

He actually looks a lot less vulnerable when he has a RB who can actually defend (like Joey G) next to him.

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03 Dec 2025 02:31:05
Good take WDW.

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03 Dec 2025 09:08:45
So do we upgrade on Bradley and Frimpong then?

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03 Dec 2025 10:21:07
No. Bradley and Frimpong are here for the long haul.

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03 Dec 2025 15:25:12
More great info. More than appreciated VG.

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03 Dec 2025 22:39:36
My last post should have read ‘stupid’ as opposed to ‘stood’. Good old predictive text.

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02 Dec 2025 10:00:26
Morning all. Question for the Eds/ ITKs.

For the second day running I'm seeing a lot of chatter about a move for Camavinga. I know that we were linked with him in the past but do we still hold a firm interest and are we considering a move for him? Is it just recycled stories or is it the classic RM media trying to drum up some interest in him?

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02 Dec 2025 10:10:24
We were interested at one stage under Klopp, but not so much now to my understanding. I would be very, very surprised if we moved for him in the summer.

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02 Dec 2025 10:53:09
Real don't tend to do any business, in or out, in January. Camavinga can play so many positions to a high level that it wouldn't make sense to sell him. He also seems to be a dead cert for the France squad regardless of whether Real start him or not.

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02 Dec 2025 10:58:11
I hope our interest has been and gone. I only see RM during CL matches if I'm interested in watching them. Any time I've seen them and him, he certainly has not stood out for me. I don't see any attributes that warrant a place in our MF in order to progress it. Perhaps those who have observed him on a more regular basis would disagree.

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02 Dec 2025 11:06:59
I’d be surprised - his injury record in a less intense league isn’t great.

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02 Dec 2025 12:24:09
He’s made of crisps. Hard pass. We need a durable and physical midfielder, not someone who’d likely go off sick for months on end for breaking a toenail.

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03 Dec 2025 00:35:15
Someone like Bajcetic, VIk?

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03 Dec 2025 02:07:59
No Rigsby. Baj takes longer breaks than months.

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03 Dec 2025 07:07:28
Bajcetic js a kid and one of our own who isn’t going to cost the thick end of £50m, I’d rather give him a chance to prove his fitness than spunk big money on a sicknote, Rigsby.

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03 Dec 2025 22:42:44
He’s 21 and last had a decent game 3 years ago @Vik. He has the makings of the next generations Nat Phillips / Rhys Williams with long term contracts and never actually making the match day squad.

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02 Dec 2025 01:51:19
Carra
Thanks for the update on Slot, looks to be done.
Any updates on defensive reinforcement as in Guehi?
Also what’s the score with Semenyo, are we looking to activate his buy out?

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02 Dec 2025 08:40:03
Or we could win tomorrow and find ourselves back in the Champs Lge places and they keep him on. I think that's more likely at this stage.

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01 Dec 2025 15:54:38
My pal who told me about the Isak deal has just informed me that Liverpool and palace have an agreement in place regarding Adam Wharton.
Fee in the region of 60 mill (which I find on the low side)
The deal is for the summer window not Jan.
Just wondering if any of the ITKS (carra, fields etc ) have heard anything.

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01 Dec 2025 15:24:49
From what I've sign he will help with build-up for sure. Can really fizz the ball into the forwards. I can imagine him finding Wirtz. However, it has to mean Macca is off to Madrid. Can you imagine how lightweight a trio of Wharton, Macca and Wirtz would be.

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01 Dec 2025 15:27:28
Aye, back in the summer I heard he was a potential incoming for the summer 26.

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01 Dec 2025 15:31:27
I look forward to Glasner stamping his feet and putting any potential replacements off joining Palace so that the move falls through.

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01 Dec 2025 16:24:55
That would be a great signing.

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01 Dec 2025 16:35:46
Shipley - glasner would need to extend his contract first. It expires in June so I’d imagine he’ll be off somewhere.

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01 Dec 2025 16:38:16
Funky, I like Mac but he’s been off the boil all season. Wharton would be a massive upgrade IMO.

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01 Dec 2025 17:00:42
Funky, Wharton lightweight? I thought he was the opposite.

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01 Dec 2025 17:25:45
Can't see why this is a good Idea.
He indeed have amazing passing range, but we need someone which will be much more mobile and intensive.

As good as Wharton is as footballer
He won't energize our midfield.

I think someone like Angelo Stiller, will fit much better, not the classic number 6, but hardworking, high intensity and also great in terms of breaking pressure trough short pass plays.

In counter attacking 4-3-3 with very fast wingers and along with 2 other midfielders that could compentstate his less intense and physical game maybe it could work.
not with 4-2-3-1 with a 10 that everything run through him and the main idea would be to bring the ball to him.

Also not in maybe future 4-1-2-1-2 / 4-2-2 / 4-2-2-2 formation we can start and use in the day after salah to combine wirtz-isak-ekiteke.
Wharton won't flatter szobo or gravenbarch.
Like someone in the Stiller profile (or Elliot Anderson for other example)

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01 Dec 2025 18:34:06
Wharton reminds me of one of my favourite Liverpool midfielders: Jamie Redknapp. Lovely on the ball, intelligent reader of the state of the game, and what kind of passes are called for: he knew when a sideways pass was needed to just slow a game down, and gradually seize back the momentum.


But he also has the same flaws: a lack of pace, and a torrid time with injuries.
I would love to see him with us, but I hope he can remain fit.

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01 Dec 2025 18:44:39
Can any prem side compete at the top without an enforcer these days?
As peiople have said, it seems Wharton would be the Mac replacement, but does his arrival mean Grav is able to be less defensively?

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01 Dec 2025 20:53:06
Grav hasn’t been defensive at all this season, it’s been a major problem. AW can’t defend either.

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01 Dec 2025 22:50:42
Grav has been poor this season, not sure what he adds or what his role is in an already weak midfield.

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01 Dec 2025 23:08:32
Don’t want him.

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01 Dec 2025 23:42:32
Sorry but stiller is not a pacer physical dm. He’s similar more similar to Wharton than all the midfielders you compared himto.

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02 Dec 2025 07:07:27
Wharton is a passer and not a physical presence. Yes he can get involved in defending but he's about as fast and mobile as Macca and pretty injury prone, if you get Wharton it's for progressing the ball and not for getting some bite in midfield. Stiller is the same. I think players like that are more alternatives to our vision of having Zubimendi in midfield.

If you want a midfielder who can do a bit of everything, who can tackle, pass, carry, cover space and look comfortable on either side of the ball while having the stamina to do it for 90 minutes, it's Elliott Anderson. I don't think he is absolutely elite at all of those aspects but he is very good at all of them, and he continues to improve as well.

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02 Dec 2025 07:08:33
That being said. I still think Joao Gomes is worth a good look. Wolves are definitely going down and he is the one midfielder in this entire list of midfielders who loves the dirty work side of the game.

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02 Dec 2025 08:22:43
PatrikBurgher - It would seem strange if Edwards went for an injury prone player. Is there anyone else out there like Caicedo?

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02 Dec 2025 09:16:57
My guess would be that he would come in as a replacement for Macca. I personally think that it would be a great move.

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02 Dec 2025 15:22:11
Like jamie redknap i hope he is not jamie very good footballer but injury prone. YNWA.

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01 Dec 2025 15:09:48
Hello all,

I understand the media are saying one thing about Slot and i'm saying antoher.

However nothing has changed on my side.

Slot will still likely leave Liverpool and has held some pretty straight conversations with the clubs executives.

The dream is to wait on Xabi Alonso's future.

If 'there's a feeling that he may come available, the club will move for him.

Ta.

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01 Dec 2025 14:16:10
Great news as always Carra. 👍.

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01 Dec 2025 14:17:13
Cheers Carra - I'm assuming you read my post so I was very interested to get your take and massively appreciate there pretty rapid response.

I think a lot of us would love Slot to turn it around after last season but there's a few that are happy for him to move on.

Gotta be honest I'm a little torn to be honest. I would like Alonso and I think he would get the work rate up and ensure we're going the right way. I also wouldn't be disappointed with Iraola either.

I guess we'll see. what happens.

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01 Dec 2025 14:29:12
Cheers, Carra.

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01 Dec 2025 14:30:34
Thanks as always Carra.

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01 Dec 2025 15:01:22
Crazy idea, but the signing of flying fullbacks Kerkez and Frimpong, plus Wirtz, has Alonso been an indirect influence on the summer signings?

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01 Dec 2025 15:28:57
Thanks for the info Carra, always appreciated.

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01 Dec 2025 16:19:18
Cheers for the update Carra.

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01 Dec 2025 16:30:39
So they've told Slot that it doesn't really matter what he does this season, if Alonso gets the chop at Real he's taking his job? And Slot didn't just resign there and then?

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01 Dec 2025 17:02:32
Why resign? Its a dream job that pays extremely well.

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01 Dec 2025 17:10:10
Cheers for the info Carra. I assume the position is to persevere with Slot for as long as and if it becomes untenable (which I think it is currently) to get a temp in.

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01 Dec 2025 18:40:05
I don’t entirely get why we want Alonso. Isn’t he a 3 at the back guy? Yes, that works for our full backs, but we don’t have enough cbs to make it work.

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01 Dec 2025 19:16:21
Carra
Thank you as always. If youd indulge, why is it Slot wants to go? Or is it the other way around? Is this down to the poor run? Or something completely different.

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01 Dec 2025 19:46:36
This ties into my point regarding Slot’s reaction to the win.
Given the pressure he has been under- there was nothing
Almost as if he wasn’t engaged with what it meant
Like he knew whatever he did- it didn’t matter.

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01 Dec 2025 19:49:58
Thanks, Carra. Always appreciated!

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01 Dec 2025 20:06:18
But what happens if Alonso stays put? He's not the kind to throw the towel in and seems like a legacy manager.
Is Slot getting till the end of the season?

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01 Dec 2025 20:44:18
@Rojack, I don’t think anybody can predict accurately at the moment.

@Monster, you’d assume that IF Alonso were to take up the role at some point in 5h3 future and IF he wanted to play 3 at the back, as an example, then the club would look to adjust the make up of the 1st team squad accordingly.

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01 Dec 2025 20:56:51
Alonso isn't a better coach than slot - I'd understand if it was inzgahi or klopp but I'd rather trust arne.

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01 Dec 2025 23:47:31
Thanks for the info Carra. Much appreciated.

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02 Dec 2025 01:25:24
Alonso isn't wedded to a three at the back. He plays 4-3-3 at real.

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02 Dec 2025 08:17:47
Would that sort of thing not be a case of “constructive dismissal”?
Pretty sure Slot could resign and successfully sue.

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https://www.rangersrumours.co.uk/images/Ed0041.png avatar{Ed078's Note - "constructive dismissal". Can't remember that from my union rep days, but I am pretty old.

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03 Dec 2025 00:44:28
It would depend on results, surely.
Slot's and Alonso's.

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01 Dec 2025 11:26:29
Question for those in "in the know" really.

We have a few on here, Ed01, Macca, Fields, Robbo and Victor and all have varying views on Slot getting more time or going to be sacked.

Is there any update at all after yesterdays result? I didn't think we were that great tbh but 3 points were needed and we did at least manage to play someone at right back to free up Szob.

Loved what I saw from Wirtz yesterday but it just all seemed a bit subdued. and will be a little in vain if we don't follow it up with a win vs a very good Sunderland side.

Look forward to hearing from the (in the knows) if they have anything new to report!

Have a great day all and thanks in advance Eds and the rest for all the input.

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https://liverpool-rumours.co.uk/uploads/thumb_Ed001.png avatar{Ed001's Note - as far as I am aware they were always backing him and hadn't decided yet to get rid.}

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01 Dec 2025 11:42:40
I’ve been following the site since I was 16 so that’s 17 years ago. Based on my experience Macca was incredibly reliable but doesn’t post anymore. Right now ed1 and Carra have the most accurate track records. Shout out to all the Ed’s for their hardwork and dedication over the years.

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01 Dec 2025 12:38:12
Judging by the Northcroft and Wallace articles over the last few days, it sounds like they are continuing to back him for now.

Much will depend on if the players simply stop playing for him. We are not quite there yet, but has been close.

However, you can bet they are watching the Xabi Alonso situation at Real Madrid carefully.

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https://www.evertonrumours.co.uk/uploads/thumb_ed025-1241569729.png avatar{Ed025's Note - Northcroft and Wallace? are they the guys from them cartoons by Nick Park FPF?.. :)

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01 Dec 2025 13:17:47
May as well be Ed. Puff pieces for the suits.

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https://www.evertonrumours.co.uk/uploads/thumb_ed025-1241569729.png avatar{Ed025's Note - love it mate..

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01 Dec 2025 13:34:40
I have a horrible feeling Slot will remain until the end of the season. I can only see him getting the nine ten jack if we get to a point where CL qualification is out of the question with league games to spare . I fear it will be a run of poor performance wins then 2 or 3 losses then another run of poor performance wins. Just enough to keep in touch with top 4 until it isn't. He should have gone in the last international break, or at the latest after the terrible back to back performances against Forest and PSV.

He may change everything, his coaches, his formation his tactics his training methods and surprise us all. If he does I will eat humble pie and appologise but I don't see it. I fear we are in for a season of medicare at best performances and maybe a to 6 finish if we are lucky.

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01 Dec 2025 13:46:06
Sorry Kha, I meant Carra (I still have this delusion that they're the same person)!

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01 Dec 2025 13:54:54
I like the guy and hope he turns it around. It sounds like the owners think the same way.

The question is, what do the players think? That will ultimately decide it.

Sunderland, Leeds and then Inter will be much more physically intense than West Ham were yesterday. I thought our off the ball aggression and intensity was still pretty average so there's a lot to improve yet. West Ham couldn't have been better opponents for us.

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01 Dec 2025 14:09:52
Only time will tell if it was a false dawn like Frankfurt, Villa and Madrid or whether it really was a turning point. We will know more the time next week.

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01 Dec 2025 14:12:35
I think we’re back. Looking at wirtz playing like he did I think we’re back in a shout for the league with a solid Christmas run. In Arne we trust.

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01 Dec 2025 14:28:33
As i've said previously, I wouldn't be surprised to see him given until the end of the season if results improve.

If Alonso hints at availability, the owners won't blink in replacing Slot with him.

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01 Dec 2025 20:46:19
@Thefields, do the tribal drums say that Alonso might actually want to manage the job at some point?

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01 Dec 2025 23:02:39
Crabbyfool. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣, you can't be serious?!

Sorry, but a west ham win doesn't count for too much. It should be a given with a lineup like we had. The result was there finally, the effort was "better" but unfortunately we are still wat of it to compete with much better/ stronger teams like Sunderland will be. I would be shocked at a convincing win. Confidence is key in football and unfortunately we are still way lacking in it

To simply say things have changed after finally getting a win ( (against a very average team) is absolutely crazy. Love your positivity, but unfortunately I just can't see it as the methods required to beat the stronger teams just isn't there.

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02 Dec 2025 08:57:25
@Thingofbeauty your comment that any game should be a ‘given’ isn’t correct though is it? At least if you choose to look at the history of football. Thinking you know what the result of the game is going to before it actually takes place never really works. If it did we’d all be down the bookies making millions every weekend.

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02 Dec 2025 10:53:51
WDW. Its a resounding yes, if I'm interpretating them correctly.

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03 Dec 2025 01:50:22
Thanks - you did interpret it correctly. I wanted to check because sometimes, especially when we all get excited, we tend to think that someone is going to do something that we think will be good without ever wondering if the ‘someone’ is actually up for it.

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29 Nov 2025 16:14:22
Watched a couple of YouTube guys this morning, not the dtupid silly ones either. 1 saying there is a major issue with the players and gvb. His info came from a very trusted source within anfield. The other claiming to of been told this info from within that slot has been informed that he will be given 5 games to prove he's the right man, the 1st game being the psv game and the last being inter away.

So he's down to 4 games. Both you tubers arex of the older generation and fans more than anything so I'm choosing to believe this myself. Heard on here that West ham will be his last no matter if we win or lose, but it could more games yet. Feel we will lose tomorrow anyway.

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29 Nov 2025 16:23:58
5 games could completely finish the season. Should have been ended the day after PSV.

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29 Nov 2025 16:44:39
I have been told he has the next 2 games and needs to win both….

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29 Nov 2025 16:47:47
GVB as in Gravenberch?

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29 Nov 2025 16:52:01
I personally agree vv. But atleast they are seriously looking at him now, add that we've alledgely spoken to Julian Nagelsman to step in already. Hopefully he goes and we get a manager to entertain us again.

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29 Nov 2025 17:38:21
I've never understood the whole "you have x number of games to save your job"

What if Slot reverts to our system of last year. wins the next 4 games, gets the nod of approval, then changes things up again and goes on another losing streak? Does the board then give him another ultimatum?

All very strange.

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29 Nov 2025 17:39:50
GVB = Giovanni van Brokkoli.

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29 Nov 2025 17:42:45
Van Bronckhorst Rax.

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29 Nov 2025 17:09:14
JLC I don't think our system is massively different from last year. We rode our luck a lot and Salah saved us quite a bit.

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29 Nov 2025 17:10:44
He can’t play last year’s system as Trent is gone. People hammered Trent for leaving gaps in defence, but maybe they perhaps now realise how much he had to do with Mo not tracking back at all. Bradley has, bar one exceptional performance, struggled to cope with it - and doesn’t have Trent’s tools in releasing Mo to an early ball.


No Trent means Mac and Mo struggling. Mac’s lack of pace now an issue.
When everyone is fit, I would like to see Wirtz back in midfield, with Grav and Slob holding.

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29 Nov 2025 17:44:02
Trent barely featured last year and when he did he was more often than not, poor.

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29 Nov 2025 17:48:15
Salah has never given the full back as much defensive help has he should

But that doesn’t mean the RB can walk through games or duck out of challenges.

That’s what Trent got to, and there’s no excuse for that.

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29 Nov 2025 17:52:19
Phase two of the rebuild coming up, this time with the right manager in place.

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29 Nov 2025 18:10:23
Trent had a nightmare v United, but otherwise was generally our MOM in every game he started - and our form nosedived when he was injured.
Local lad, who was at the heart of all our success - he was one of our all time greats, and made us more successful than other Liverpool born greats of the Prem era.


Sorry, but of the local lads he is above Gerrard, Robbie and Macca for me. He just changed the way the game can be played.

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29 Nov 2025 18:48:07
The two games I think showed what Trent brought to the team last year were the games he missed PSG at home and the cup final loss to Newcastle.

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29 Nov 2025 19:19:24
Red Flyer you’re talking rubbish it’s like night and day. Salah being the prime example, we broke quick last season, pressed higher and were not depressingly negative in the build up play. There’s a reason why Salah in about five months has gone from the most G/ A to barely getting a touch.

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29 Nov 2025 20:24:00
Above Gerrard? You must be too young to have actually seen him play.

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29 Nov 2025 20:35:03
@JLC, I agree with you. The idea that you have 2, 6, 10 games etc isn’t how a team / manager should be judged.

The yardstick should be the manager introducing or improving the was in which a team is set up to 0ay that works to the skills and strengths of the players available, that plays (or tries to play) attractive football that people want to watch and that wins.

Two (Villa, Real Madrid) possibly three games aside this season we have been abysmal. We have lacked basic energy, cohesion and any apparent desire to win. The rot set in when we won the PL last year. As soon as we were mathematically uncatchable we clocked off and have been getting worse at an increasingly alarming rate. Slot seems like a decent bloke but it’s time for da change - we are coming up on a quarter of the season being done and we are steadily getting worse with no sign that things will (perhaps even can) change.

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29 Nov 2025 20:42:43
Me? I saw Gerrard. Saw Souness, Molby Whelan too. Always felt Gerrard could have been a great right back, but he never cut it for me in central midfield. Too many telegraphed passes, never took control of a key Prem game. Great in cup games, less so in league matches.
I would happily put Hendo and Szob above him as best cms since Souness.

Fine player, but not a leader - rather than dragging other players over the line, I always felt he held them back by saying give me the ball, I am more talented than you. Just don’t think that - against top 6 clubs - he ever seized control of a game.

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29 Nov 2025 20:51:50
The football hasn't been as exciting but (as you may remember) my son and I analyze the xG statistics and our analysis shows that actually we haven't deserved to lose anywhere near the number of matches that we have. In fact looking at the xG we should have 24 points at the moment and be 3rd.

Now I know that there are lies, dmn lies and statistics but we haven't been as bad as everyone keeps saying. Watching the games I think we quite often look good until we go behind. There are certainly things that need sorting but I don't think it's quite as big a task as people are making out.

Agree with you @WDW about the clocking off. Quite disappointed about that.

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https://www.evertonrumours.co.uk/uploads/thumb_ed025-1241569729.png avatar{Ed025's Note - XG wins you nothing just like possession MCH, in fact you could have lost a lot more points than you have only for good fortune mate, please consider this as a reality check.. :)

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29 Nov 2025 20:55:38
The nonsense about Trent last season! Our form nosedived? We won the league! Trent was awful last year. He started less than half of the games we played overall. Started 25 in the prem.

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29 Nov 2025 22:20:21
Frode I wouldn't go so far as to say night and day. We flattered to deceive a lot last season especially the last 2 months of the season.

Salah has had moments this season but his vision, touch, passing and finishing has deserted him. He's not the same player.

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29 Nov 2025 22:58:34
@ManCalledHorse I have seen the XG statistics, and while Liverpool have better XG most of the time, they do not pass the eye test at all.

Additionally, one mistake of the xG is that is cumulative and since we normally shoot more than the teams we play against, we end up with higher xG. It would be better to normalize it by shots or combine it with chances created and big chances missed.

So yes, it is a big task to ask, because as you say, we do not play bad offensively until we go behind. The problem is that defensively and the cohesion between defense and offense is bad points during games and that is not shown in most statistics.

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29 Nov 2025 23:13:18
Trent was awful last season on the whole, bar maybe two or three games. As for the ridiculous assertion that he was better than Gerrard, utter nonsense. Never saw him grab a game by the scruff of the neck like Gerrard. He had good moments, but that’s all. Below average right back with an above average right foot.

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29 Nov 2025 23:54:46
I think you might have watched a different Gerrard Monster. All opinions of course and I respect yours but mine is very different. Trent was and is a special player no doubt, but there's a reason a player with such vision and passing ability played at fullback. He didn't have the other necessary attributes, even at a basic level to play midfield effectively I e he has immense talent but his deficiencies limited where he could be practically utilised. Meanwhile Gerrard was one of the most completed all round players I think I have ever seen. Comparing Trent to Gerrard, a midfield general who could run all game, was quick, pass short, pass long, thread balls through the lines, finish, score from range, score free kicks, tracked back, good in the tackle all the while almost single handedly leading and dragging our team through 2 decades of relevant mediocrity, is totally unbalanced.

I can't think of a single modern midfield player that can do all those things. Take all the best bits of Szob, Hendo, Trent, Gini, Macca, Fabinho and roll them up into one player and then we might be getting somewhere near Gerrard. Prime
Gerrard in today's market would fetch over £200m easy.

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30 Nov 2025 00:07:33
Not one person over the age of 25 calls the Premier League the Prem 😂.

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30 Nov 2025 00:51:17
Monstersouness - Gerrard may not be a nice person but as a footballer? You need to give your head a wobble.

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30 Nov 2025 00:52:34
I just think we need a shoutier assistant manager. Both AS and GVB are just too reasonable.
Nice guy, shouty guy.
Maybe oversimplified but losing Heitinger seems to be the difference for me.
Len.

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30 Nov 2025 01:43:30
Trent was awful last year? Besides the fact that your observation is in my opinion quite plainly wrong, the fact that Trent is even on the field affects the way the other team approaches us. I'm not saying he is indispensable but we haven't fixed the way we play to account for his absence.

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29 Nov 2025 23:30:54
@Ed025, True but the stats also suggest that Everton should be 15th - that's fairly accurate ;)

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https://www.evertonrumours.co.uk/uploads/thumb_ed025-1241569729.png avatar{Ed025's Note - the stars will line up now and again MCH, but as they say even a broken clock is right twice a day mate.. :)

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30 Nov 2025 06:48:21
'above average right foot', Viktor? Let's be real, the lad redefined the full back position and has been one of the most creative players in the premier league/ one of the best progressive passers in Europe the last few seasons, all this while playing in defense.

I think it's nonsense that the bitterness over his departure has led folks to suggest he contributed little to the title win and that they are glad to see the back of him. I think it's a fact that we miss him, and again I would reiterate that I don't think that he is absolutely indispensable, it's the fault of the recruitment team to not adequately replace his progression from the back in this team.

I personally think that if we had somebody who had even half the ability of Trent to find runners in space or in behind this year Ekitike and Isak would have scored 5 or 6 more goals than we currently have right now.

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30 Nov 2025 06:55:35
Monster souness. I think you have spoke the worst load of rubbish on here. Trent was better than Gerrard . give your head a wobble.

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30 Nov 2025 08:53:20
Trent’s peak years in the prem by some distance for creativity were 2019, 20 and 22. He was clocking up an assist every three games around that time. In 2024 it moved to one in seven, and in 2025 he was at about one in five or six. He was never a really prolific goal scorer in the league, two or three a season type level. Some of his assists were equally due to the brilliance of Mo and Mane to be fair, he’d ping a pass and they still had a lot to do to convert those chances.

When you go deeper into the stats though he didn’t come out nearly as well defensively or in terms of passing accuracy. The likes of Walker, Reece James and even Trippier were often better than him even in the early 20’s when he was at his best.

So yes we definitely miss the creativity he offered at his best, his best was a while ago not last few seasons, and defensively and in other ways he wasn’t as good as others.

Where we’ve done badly is succession planning. He wasn’t as good and had been on the wane for a while, it was obvious he wasn’t going to stay, and we didn’t have a back up lined up that could stay fit.

Connors stats are well off creatively, a big part of that is due to him playing so few games, Mo has declined massively and we don’t have a Mane quality left sided player to supply. All of which points to having a more defensively sound right back, rather than worrying too much about trying to recreate a Trent from four or five years ago.

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30 Nov 2025 09:14:58
Not just the RB getting no cover, Diaz worked his arse off on the left, Gakpo doesn't so both Fullbacks massively exposed, Konate and VVD equally exposed because of that.

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30 Nov 2025 09:37:23
Trent's importance surely can't be evaluated purely based on his assists, he would find players in space who would then possibly provide an assist, he was a cheat code to spray the ball wide to the wings early or get the ball through the lines. Putting his pass accuracy next to the likes of Trippier and James is also a bit pointless, because Trent was tasked, by Klopp especially, to be the player that plays the riskiest passes up field, Trippier and James simply were never asked to play those sorts of passes up the field.

Yes defensively he was never brilliant but the team was built in a way to try to attenuate the impact of his deficiencies. All this is to say that comparing Trent to other right backs purely in terms of stats says nothing, really. He offers something that was of huge value to us and the way we play.

Not every coach wants to build his team around Trent, that's perfectly fair, I can imagine Tuchel probably won't ever want to do that, and Xabi looks like he's still on the fence around the issue. Slot last year was also trying to move away from having Trent be the hinge around which the entire team revolves in the build up, though Trent continued to play a massive part. Just because those coaches don't fancy paying the cost of putting Trent on the field, though, doesn't diminish his value as a player.

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30 Nov 2025 09:38:17
And by 'recreate Trent from four of five years ago', I think you misunderstand my meaning. I mean we need to replace Trent's ball progression and creation from deep. You are talking about something entirely different.

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30 Nov 2025 08:28:00
Talking about stats.
I read somewhere that if it weren't for late goals we scored in the first 5 games we would be 19th.

Though at the time i think we all thought it was just the team needing time to gel.

In some moments you would think. wow when this team clicks were going to destroy. turns out it was ourselves being destroyed.

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30 Nov 2025 10:07:01
Monster, Gerrard is an all time first 11 LFC player. No question. It's only a pity that the timing of him going and Klopp incoming did not align. That would have been special.

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30 Nov 2025 12:34:17
Monster. Gerrard is among some of the best midfielders in world football. Carried Liverpool for years. Had he gone to United or Chelsea or Real he would of been a superstar. To say trent was above him haha.

Madness. If trent is so special, what's he upto these days? Can't defend really, can ping a pass sure, never scored many free kicks either and not good enough for midfield. You seriously can't compare those 2.

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30 Nov 2025 12:45:05
Ternt, Hendo and Dom above Gerrard?! Who let the United fans in?

Gerrard is an out-and-out legend. When people talk about the greatest midfielders of all time, Gerrard's name will always be one of the first on the list. Hendo couldn't lace Gerrard's boots. And while Dom is a very good player, he's still a country mile off Gerrard. If you never saw Gerrard take control of a big Premier League game, then you never watched him mate. You won't be able to convince anybody in here otherwise.

When people talk about the greatest RB's of all time I guarantee you, nobody will ever mention Trent. Ever. Great long ball specialist, good crosser and a threat from set pieces. Outside of that he had no pace, poor ability to run at players and take on defenders, awful one-on-one defending, a lack of consistency, terrible defensive positioning and one of the worst examples of a ball watcher I've ever seen. If I had a 5er for every time Trent forgot to pick up his man I'd be a multi millionaire.

These aren't opinions, these are just facts.

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30 Nov 2025 11:51:32
Just goes to show that stats can mean anything you want them to. It doesn’t matter what ‘value’ xG computes, it’s what the score is at the end of the match that counts. We haven’t been unlucky, we are just playing badly.

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30 Nov 2025 09:47:44
@Dominican_fan, you won't have seen our statistical analysis which gives far better consideration to the games than just adding up the individual xG values (which is what you get on TV) . I have created an android app which I'm happy to let the ed's have, and yourself since you have been looking at the stats, if you are happy not to distribute further at the moment. (There is a limit to the number of users that the server can support) .

Ed's please drop me a note if you/ df are interested in having it.

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30 Nov 2025 14:16:27
With Stevie G (am I allowed to abbreviate his name? One poster had an issue with me abbreviating Premiership to Prem…. ), I do think he was a great. But not in central midfield. His best seasons were under Rafa as a 10 or on the right. Rafa never trusted him in cm, and I think he would have been better for England as a 10.


In cm, I always felt he lacked positional discipline and tried too many Hollywood balls.
And, funnily enough, I seem to remember him playing right back in an early game - and I always thought he could have been an era defining right back.
When it comes to an all-time LFC team, he would be right midfield for me. And Trent at right back.

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30 Nov 2025 08:28:00
Talking about stats.
I read somewhere that if it weren't for late goals we scored in the first 5 games we would be 19th.

Though at the time i think we all thought it was just the team needing time to gel.

In some moments you would think. wow when this team clicks were going to destroy. turns out it was ourselves being destroyed.

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30 Nov 2025 16:29:30
PB . the fact that you've had to write 3 essays of trents play to justify your love for him doesn't matter . other people can see he could pass a good ball but was a terrible defender and cost us plenty of goals .

he couldn't even get in the England team, there was James, Walker n Trippier all ahead of him . n now he can't get a game for Madrid with their first choice right back out.

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30 Nov 2025 17:36:05
Trent is not even in the same stratosphere as Steven Gerrard. The best player i've ever seen in a liverpool jersey. only Barnes nd Suarez's 2 fantastic seasons come close to him.

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30 Nov 2025 17:53:56
There were games where we conceded in the last minute too so we could be in the top 4 now if we’ve not lost those games. So let’s have some balance please.

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01 Dec 2025 03:13:13
I specifically brought up the point of Trent not playing for real or England, did you miss that? Not every coach will like the plus and minuses that building a setup around Trent will bring and will want a more conventional fullback. So what? Does that make him a worse player or less important when he played for us? i don't think those coaches are wrong btw, it's just what they want from their team and how they want to progress the ball from other areas.

My sense is that you didn't read any of the 'essays' I wrote about Trent and simply repeated a point that I already addressed.

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01 Dec 2025 03:28:16
Not ITK at all lol

But just can’t see Hughes, Edwards and co giving a 5 game ultimatum lol

Also, people say we should make a change to save the season? But making a change would literally end the season.

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01 Dec 2025 06:48:15
PB . what ever way you wrap it up , its the same line . in your opinion no one is better than Trent but then you don't listen to what other people say about him, if you close down certain arguments to justify your argument.

the fact is Trent was that good, he'd be England's and Real Madrid first choice . yet these coaches don't agree with you, only Klopp thought this but he also let Trents ego go unchecked, walking round in the United game etc.

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01 Dec 2025 09:12:21
The United game should be seen in context though. People forget that less than 24hrs prior, RM put a bid in for him to unsettle him. It clearly worked though because his head wasn't in the game that day. Trent has his deficiencies but he did help us win the PL twice and the champions league once.

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01 Dec 2025 09:36:23
I never said that no one is better than Trent, I simply said he was a very important player for us and his function in our team hasn't been adequately replaced. Also why should it matter whether he plays for tuchel or Alonso? I only care about what he gave our team and what role he played.

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01 Dec 2025 13:01:47
Steven Gerrard was an immense player, one of the best midfielders we’ve had. Definitely top 6. There was one season where he played a lot off the right, and his crossing and goal scoring was excellent. That was arguably one of his best spells but he preferred to play through the middle.

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01 Dec 2025 15:52:06
Monster, right midfield would have been his best position. Rafa wanted him to play there but SG wanted CM and got his way. I remember ED01 spoke with knowledge on this previously. I believe so anyway!

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29 Nov 2025 16:13:22
A question to all the guys ITK… is there any update of the situation with slot? Will the West Ham game be his last? Plus what happens if we beat them and also Sunderland, or is his gate already sealed?

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29 Nov 2025 16:46:57
Yes his gate is the exit gate goodbye,

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29 Nov 2025 16:53:11
Welded shut pal.

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29 Nov 2025 17:17:52
He shouldn't have any more chances. He had enough time to change things but refused to. His press conference was about not changing for tomorrow aswell so the man is deluded and needs to go quickly.

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30 Nov 2025 01:44:06
Sloth, do you post anything about our team that doesn't involve your desperation for slot to lose his job?

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30 Nov 2025 11:53:04
Sorry, I can’t help myself …. What hasn’t the sloth got?

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30 Nov 2025 16:48:40
Pat you’re right we haven’t adapted as well as we could have done to the loss of Trent, whether that was him at his peak or the Trent of the last few seasons where he occasionally brought something special to the piece but he wasn’t great by any stretch. At his best he helped the team hit some heights, the team helped counter balance his weaknesses, and other teams were put on the back foot when he had the ball. He was really unusual for a right back, and a risk taker.

With a declining Salah in the team we’ll be better with a more defensive minded player there, if we either replace Mo or his form and work rate picks up we could have a more expansive right back. It’s horses for courses. As Wirtz settles in we’ll get more creativity from him, it’s all just part of the evolution of the team which has been pretty painful this season.

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01 Dec 2025 09:14:26
Agreed Hugo. Trent is a unique player but he needs the entire team to be built around him to make the best of his abilities. We'd be much better balanced with a more defensively solid RB.

The issue is that Slot seemed to still be playing as if he had Trent at RB and that doesn't work for us anymore. We are taking all the risks now with none of the benefit.

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29 Nov 2025 09:19:30
Seen a lot saying Leoni will be back training in January, does anyone know anything? Thought he was confirmed out for the season.

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29 Nov 2025 09:40:26
With the injury he had, beeing back in full training in a few months is some feat and pretty impossible.

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https://liverpool-rumours.co.uk/uploads/thumb_Ed001.png avatar{Ed001's Note - it is a very long rehab, so it would be very likely he would be back training then, but nowhere near ready to play. The muscle wasting along will take months to repair.}

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29 Nov 2025 09:53:22
Fake news.

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29 Nov 2025 09:56:25
It will take months for him to regain strength and more importantly confidence in his knee. So I believe it viable, but it will be highly monitored (knee) to see how well his recovery is going, good luck to the lad.

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29 Nov 2025 10:20:18
If he is back, then it would most likely be a continuation of his rehab, so gym work. No chance of pitch work, or even jogging outside, at this stage. An ACL rupture is usually 6 - 9 months, but as Rodri's injury has shown, it can be a lot longer if not managed properly.

We won't see Leoni again till next season's pre season. A real shame because he looked like the complete opposite of Konate this season, which is kinda what we need, right now. On course for MOTM on his debut, then an innocuous moment, and Boom, ACL rupture. Sucks for the lad, but hopefully it is a minor blip on what will be a great career at Liverpool.

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29 Nov 2025 10:52:25
Just hope he comes back from this. Bajcetic in the back of my mind.

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29 Nov 2025 13:27:21
Yeah, don't expect to see him play football until the new season at the earliest. Best to have low expectations.

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29 Nov 2025 13:49:02
I’ve had the same injury and I had over a year of physio. You can’t rush it am afraid.

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29 Nov 2025 14:06:52
I just hope he gets back on track and it doesn't derail the young lad's career as we've sadly seen so often.

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29 Nov 2025 14:13:02
Didn’t Zlatan fully recover from 2 separate ACL injuries in 7 months?

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29 Nov 2025 17:13:58
People often misremember Zlatan's experience dealing with his ACL injury. He came back after 7 months, that is correct. But then he kept picking up injury after injury after that, even missing a 2 month stretch.

Zlatan was believing his own hype too much, and was especially fond of the memes that surrounded him, and so pushed himself to appease his own inflated ego. He was made to suffer for it, and missed a lot of game time.

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29 Nov 2025 17:48:43
Giovanni is on a You Tube video walking briskly without Crutches or any walking aids, going into the Ground for the Carabao Cup loss game versus Crystal Palace 29 October.

The true extent of the tear will have been noticed by the Surgeon foremost, hopefully he has had the slightest tear possible. Though like the posts above, rest is the best though his comeback looks quite promising for next season.

The first team malaise is spreading throughout the club Liverpool under 18s were well beaten at Kirby Academy by man united under 18s 7-0 earlier today! Severe Defensive problems seem the norm at the Club for every LFC teams this season?

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29 Nov 2025 17:53:07
I myself have suffered an ACL tear and there are many factors contributing to length of recovery.
I. e severity of tear,
Potential setbacks during rehabilitation and individuals ability to self heal.
With the advancements in treatment nowadays including cryotherapy which is a game changer during the healing process, then timescales can be reduced for sure.
But anything below 5-6 months would be miraculous.

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29 Nov 2025 19:00:19
With him being so young his bodies in a good position to repair quicker and better than van dijk and Rodri’s. Also nice he isn’t as important to the team as those two were to their respective clubs so I can’t imagine there will be as much of a push to get him back in too early.

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30 Nov 2025 11:55:35
So the younger you are the more likely you are to recover, irrespective of the amount of damage that may or may not have been done?

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